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Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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Don't you see? My time is too valuable to do anything vaguely unpleasant. The entire economy would suffer if I had to pick up my own food.

I'm probably going to get downvoted for this, but yes - that's spot on. It's exactly that kind of attitude I've seen far too often in the culture of well-paid tech workers. Their lives are all about optimization of time resources / time management, and everyone should bow to their needs - if it results in them shaving off some minutes here and there. After all, they're making $300k/year working on important products,…

We all pay people to do things that we could do ourselves that we would rather not do.

Every time we eat out, pay a lawn service to cut our grass, have someone else wash our car.

Yes. It is dumb though to justify it based on how much you get paid hourly. They don’t understand the real concept of opportunity cost.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

#492

This is the right move - local restaurants are hurting and, sadly, the internet is a place where big corps with large budgets have leverage over passionate little guys working their butts off. For those who want to help, I built a chrome extension similar to Honey that shows a local restaurant's direct ordering website as you're about to order from that restaurant thru a third party service. If direct ordering isn't…

The app is a cool idea, however, I’m curious how you guys plan on managing the standardization across menu items. Replicating a single restaurant menu is an incredibly complicated problem given the amount of customization, but you also need to account for the variability of the same menu across multiple services.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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Why would you tip the restaurant staff?

Because tipping restaurant staff is what normal people do when they go out to restaurants in the U.S. Those same people still prepare and package the food, even when someone else delivers it.

You got a lotta Reservoir Dogs fans replying to you lol. Didn’t realize how cheap so many of the tech bros on here were.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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And base that delivery fee on distance between the restaurant and the customer as well. They can solve it they want to. People in treasure might be willing to pay a higher fee than to not get any delivery at all. It’s political posturing and pressure tactics.

In that other fold of the multiverse, the headline could be that uber is charging people extra in Treasure Island, which contains a lot of subsidized low-income housing.

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Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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> It is more efficient to put in place industry specific rules which then can be enforced with much simpler reasoning. I could not disagree more strongly. If you could point me to a rule that meets these criteria I'd love to see them -- all the rules that I've had to deal with in my professional life have been contrived to benefit the small number of companies actually capable of complying with them, rather than supp…

Rules e.g. establish markets and enable competition: Standard screws or standard contracts. The absence of basic rules like disclosure of service prices is doubling the cost of US health care. Other rules force the airlines to compete on services and price but not on safety.

This is a grab bag of regulatory and non-regulatory stuff.

How long do you spend in jail for making a nonstandard screw?

Standard contracts are industry standards (mostly) not government or regulated. Where contracts abut government function is enforcement and to some degree limitations and exclusions on what contracts are allowed to cover.

US health care is not easy to one-line, but I think you’d be hard pressed to argue that the space is not heavily regulated already, and yet mysteriously still has tons of problems.

Safety regulations I’ll grant you are probably a net benefit to society. Largely because limitations of liability make the situation too asymmetric.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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Because tipping restaurant staff is what normal people do when they go out to restaurants in the U.S. Those same people still prepare and package the food, even when someone else delivers it.

People tip the waiters when dining in . Depends on the location if those waiters share with the rest of the staff. Picking up food usually has no tips. Delivery involves tipping the driver, which delivery apps already support and they don't take any fees from it.

> Picking up food usually has no tips.

I typically tipped even when picking up food. And restaurant staff remember that, precisely because so few people do it.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

#497

This is the right move - local restaurants are hurting and, sadly, the internet is a place where big corps with large budgets have leverage over passionate little guys working their butts off. For those who want to help, I built a chrome extension similar to Honey that shows a local restaurant's direct ordering website as you're about to order from that restaurant thru a third party service. If direct ordering isn't…

This is absolutely not the right move. This is you self promoting your app. Restaurants will pay more to market themselves, hire delivery drivers, and manage the logistics. Local restaurants are hurting because of COVID. They are blaming the delivery services, whose proprietary tech, marketing spend, logistics services are the only reason 90% could maintain any revenue stream.

> This is you self promoting your app.

Okay, but it seems like a reasonable time to promote a relevant app that is apparently free with no ads. It's not like your post is completely free of agenda.

> Restaurants will pay more to market themselves, hire delivery drivers, and manage the logistics.

This is simply not true. Adding middle men does not make this more efficient, and I'm really not sure why you think it does.

One basic reason it's not true, is that business owners won't necessarily pay for these things at all, they may just do them themselves. Sometimes it's easier to produce effort than it is to produce cash to buy effort.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

#498

This is the right move - local restaurants are hurting and, sadly, the internet is a place where big corps with large budgets have leverage over passionate little guys working their butts off. For those who want to help, I built a chrome extension similar to Honey that shows a local restaurant's direct ordering website as you're about to order from that restaurant thru a third party service. If direct ordering isn't…

The app is a cool idea, however, I’m curious how you guys plan on managing the standardization across menu items. Replicating a single restaurant menu is an incredibly complicated problem given the amount of customization, but you also need to account for the variability of the same menu across multiple services.

This is a really good insight and a part of the delivery experience I think could be greatly improved. Different services offer surprisingly different versions of the same menu, and customers are unaware there might be better selection on a different website.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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When I order delivery from a restaurant, an employee (maybe the owner’s kid) comes and delivers the food directly to my house when it’s done. It‘s generally faster than the app model where you need to wait for the driver to go to the restaurant to pick up the food, then come to your house while possibly stopping at other restaurants and/or houses on the way. I could see how the restaurant delivery would be worse if t…

Restaurant deliver can be worse when the driver is overloaded and your food sits at the restaurant waiting for them to pick it up, or when the driver picks up multiple orders at once (likely) and yours is delayed or is last to be dropped off.

I've definitely had this happen on occasion. There might be interesting ways to solve this problem, like showing the level of "delivery risk" associated with an order given the user's distance from the restaurant and time of day.

Re: Portland approves 10% cap on fees that food delivery apps can charge restaurants

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Because tipping restaurant staff is what normal people do when they go out to restaurants in the U.S. Those same people still prepare and package the food, even when someone else delivers it.

You got a lotta Reservoir Dogs fans replying to you lol. Didn’t realize how cheap so many of the tech bros on here were.

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