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One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

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Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

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This is enraging. Identity theft in the United States can be a headache, sure, but in most cases the financial institutions are the ones taking the brunt of the damage, and even that is probably covered by some sort of insurance scheme. This woman had her entire life stripped away from her, not to mention making her doubt her own abilities by implying she “failed” the exam. How do these people live with themselves, e…

The western sense of morality didn’t stop the admissions scandals to all top western universities like Harvard Stanford and so on. Chinese universities as far as I know don’t have things like institutionalized legacy admissions. I’d like people to reconsider the view that western societies are somehow inherently purer or less corrupt. Often it takes different forms. This can be seen in the way sanctions are imposed f…

Yep I’m sure that their universities have no concept of letting in children of a major donor or political figure with influence.

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#52
post #21

What's nuts about this how tons of people from all levels of government/society participated in this conspiracy. It says a lot about the general attitude of Chinese people. (I'm chinese, btw)

To be more specific, I think it says a lot about the general attitude of people that have grown up under the CCP, and the 'take what you can get or starve' environment they've fostered.

It's seen in other ways like lack of queuing, littering, and the general corruption throughout all levels of bureaucracy.

The attitude is far less pervasive in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, or other countries with significant Chinese populations.

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#53
post #21

What's nuts about this how tons of people from all levels of government/society participated in this conspiracy. It says a lot about the general attitude of Chinese people. (I'm chinese, btw)

To be more specific, I think it says a lot about the general attitude of people that have grown up under the CCP, and the 'take what you can get or starve' environment they've fostered. It's seen in other ways like lack of queuing, littering, and the general corruption throughout all levels of bureaucracy. The attitude is far less pervasive in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, or other countries with significan…

For sure, thanks for being more specific. I definitely noticed the overall attitude is generally different for Asians who are not of Chinese Nationality.

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#54

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Because maybe you did something interesting in your young life that others aspire to achieve like: front a popular rock band[0], star in a popular television series[1] or a few movies[2][3], or even change a professional sport [4]? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_Cuomo [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Savage [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Watson [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reese_Witherspo…

I'm not sure why you linked to these people though? These achievements may be tales to recite to your grandchildren but none of this should come up in academic entrance decisions. These people have chosen a career in entertainment which is completely orthogonal to higher learning.

Many universities aren't just about academics though. They wouldn't have things like, say, theatre clubs if they were. At some level, universities are about helping to prepare young people for life and a career. Certainly a lot of what I got out of the various degrees I obtained had very little to do with specific courses I took.

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#55
post #37

This is enraging. Identity theft in the United States can be a headache, sure, but in most cases the financial institutions are the ones taking the brunt of the damage, and even that is probably covered by some sort of insurance scheme. This woman had her entire life stripped away from her, not to mention making her doubt her own abilities by implying she “failed” the exam. How do these people live with themselves, e…

The western sense of morality didn’t stop the admissions scandals to all top western universities like Harvard Stanford and so on. Chinese universities as far as I know don’t have things like institutionalized legacy admissions. I’d like people to reconsider the view that western societies are somehow inherently purer or less corrupt. Often it takes different forms. This can be seen in the way sanctions are imposed f…

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Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#56
post #21

What's nuts about this how tons of people from all levels of government/society participated in this conspiracy. It says a lot about the general attitude of Chinese people. (I'm chinese, btw)

To be more specific, I think it says a lot about the general attitude of people that have grown up under the CCP, and the 'take what you can get or starve' environment they've fostered. It's seen in other ways like lack of queuing, littering, and the general corruption throughout all levels of bureaucracy. The attitude is far less pervasive in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, or other countries with significan…

It’s also common in India which had a socialist economy with the same “take or starve” outcome until the 90s. It prevails to this day due to to corruption.

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#57
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you linked to these people though? These achievements may be tales to recite to your grandchildren but none of this should come up in academic entrance decisions. These people have chosen a career in entertainment which is completely orthogonal to higher learning.

Many universities aren't just about academics though. They wouldn't have things like, say, theatre clubs if they were. At some level, universities are about helping to prepare young people for life and a career. Certainly a lot of what I got out of the various degrees I obtained had very little to do with specific courses I took.

Yes, different clubs are common and beneficial, and there's a lot of growing taking place during your uni years. But the parent was linking to professional actors, and I fail to see any relation there. The topic wasn't about admissions to theatrical majors in art universities.

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#59
post #46
post #36

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Sounds like AP testing, which is required for most competitive institutions.

ap testing is a lot shorter, clearly not as comprehensive, and graded very leniently in comparison

How do you know this? Many posters here commenting authoritatively about two educational systems...

Re: One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

#60
> The Ministry of Education has also announced that any students found to be involved in identity theft will not be allowed to enrol in university.

Yeah that seems like the risk for screwing someone over is not so low - same outcome as if you hadn't committed this atrocity.

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