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Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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I don’t think that those are good analogies. Cooking for yourself is more akin to bathing yourself or wiping your own butt. It’s super easy if you grow up assuming that you should be doing those things yourself and unbelievably expensive if you pay others to do it for you.

Do you have advice for someone that did not grow up assuming they should be cooking for them self? I've been making an effort to improve myself and it has been rewarding but honestly cooking for myself has been one of the steepest learning curves in my life. It is starting to pay off after months of effort motivated by a once-a-century global disaster. This is not an approachable skill, at all.

Unfortunately a lot of online recipes and cookbooks are for people looking to make something different and special, not looking for an everyday meal.

Being a home cook (as opposed to being a chef) is actually a lot like programming. Learn a few simple patterns and you can recombine them in different ways. Look for patterns in any recipes that you follow and then you can reuse them in other situations. I can give some examples.

Basic cream sauce from fat (butter or pan grease), liquid (normally milk or stock), flour and seasoning.

The many ways of cooking eggs.

Basic grilled cheese

Seasoning with salt and pepper

tasting and adjusting as you go

Pancake variations

Biscuit variations

Quick-breads

Temperatures of doneness for meats (there are charts, get a good meat thermometer).

Chopping (you really need at least one good knife).

For example, I can make a very nice sandwich by combining white sauce, a fried egg, and a grilled cheese. (Put a fried egg and cheese and inside the sandwich, lightly coat with white sauce, fry as with grilled cheese. Season with salt and pepper.

I make biscuits, boil pasta or veggies and cover them with a very similar white sauce.

Boil macaroni and some broccoli, add cheese to the white sauce heating until it melts, combine both in a baking pan with some breadcrumbs on top, bake until it looks set (25-35 minutes at 350(f) is a good bet).

Basically the idea is to learn a few basic recipes (each a different ‘sub process’ or function) and use or them combine them with other ingredients that you have.

Taste every so often to ensure that you don’t make something inedible. Give it your full attention.

Sometimes you’ll make something truly weird and other times you’ll make something amazing and different that no one’s ever had before.

Just don’t burn your house down and don’t deep fry anything until you’ve got plenty of experience and know the dangers.

Obviously the recipes I’m giving are very vague, thats kind of the point as it is all up to your taste, which is different from mine. The key is paying attention to what you think is good.

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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post #134

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I don’t think that those are good analogies. Cooking for yourself is more akin to bathing yourself or wiping your own butt. It’s super easy if you grow up assuming that you should be doing those things yourself and unbelievably expensive if you pay others to do it for you.

Do you have advice for someone that did not grow up assuming they should be cooking for them self? I've been making an effort to improve myself and it has been rewarding but honestly cooking for myself has been one of the steepest learning curves in my life. It is starting to pay off after months of effort motivated by a once-a-century global disaster. This is not an approachable skill, at all.

Speaking for myself; one of the most meaningful pieces to me was understanding the "why". For example, if you read a cookbook, it will tell you precisely "what" to do. A good cookbook or a recipe-like youtube video will tell you "how" to do it. If all you ever do is make that one recipe, the "what" and the "how" can get you there if that is how your brain works (mine doesn't).

Understanding "why" this step is before that step, or "why" the temperature needs to be as it suggests, or "why" the ingredients are in that ratio... that unlocks an entirely new level of cooking. Now you can go off-recipe or make ingredient replacements to accommodate what's in the fridge or try something you've never even seen before with reasonably high confidence that it will come out well.

It is like the difference between memorizing your multiplication table and really understanding multiplication. Or the difference between being able to follow directions from point A to point B and knowing the area well enough to chart a path to the destination regardless of roadblocks.

In any case, I am a science nerd (as I assume many of you are). For me, the show Good Eats (or honestly, most of what Alton Brown does) was a refreshing and educational angle that developed and supported a lot of my understanding about "why" as it relates to food.

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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post #134

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I don’t think that those are good analogies. Cooking for yourself is more akin to bathing yourself or wiping your own butt. It’s super easy if you grow up assuming that you should be doing those things yourself and unbelievably expensive if you pay others to do it for you.

Do you have advice for someone that did not grow up assuming they should be cooking for them self? I've been making an effort to improve myself and it has been rewarding but honestly cooking for myself has been one of the steepest learning curves in my life. It is starting to pay off after months of effort motivated by a once-a-century global disaster. This is not an approachable skill, at all.

I'd recommend starting out with recipes, or books aimed toward beginners. I was in this spot, and Bittman's "The Basics" book was amazingly useful.

It certainly takes a lot of time to learn, especially as an adult without another person to teach them, and the wasted time and money from a failed dish can be greatly discouraging.

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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Learn how to take care of yourself first. That includes: * learning to cook and prepare your own food. * learn proper sleeping habits and make a routine that feels comfortable. * learn to exercise - pick an activity and do it consistently with some goals in mind. * learn to budget money and manage expenses. * learn to groom yourself and maintain a regular cleanliness routine * learn to entertain yourself alone - with…

++ pick up a social hobby that you enjoy doing with others

++ Learn to meditate

++ Creativity is fostered by learning deep and wide. Learn something outside of computers... etc

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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A Personal Knowledge Management (PKM) system has been invaluable to me personally and professionally. It takes a decent amount of work, but it doesn't feel like the knowledge I accrue slips through a sieve anymore, maybe 15% versus 50%.

Do you use any special software for that?

Nothing too specialized.

I use Google Bookmarks to "queue" up readings that I want to review; generally I don't let this exceed ~10 (otherwise I know I'll never get to them). I use Google Keep to jot down raw thoughts/notes (e.g. if I'm learning a new concept or hear something interesting on a podcast) throughout the day. Then, every weekend I review all of these notes (say between 10 and 60) and "structure" them into organized domains (e.g. sociology, biology, finance, psychology, history) and clean them up before putting them into OneNote.

I generally don't check my OneNote so often - except if I know I have notes related to a topic and I'd like to review them (say antifragility or neural annealing) - but the two-step process of writing down the notes, then revisiting/refining them later tends to aid my retention substantially.

I'd say during an average week I spend about 1-2 hours on this process. Sometimes, if I've been inundated with new information, it can be up to 4-6 hours, especially when I have a lot of queued readings to go through. Overall though I've considered it well-worth the investment.

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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Quarantining made me realize just how much I spend on food and alcohol. And while don't get me wrong, I love a good meal and a night out with friends, we will definitely be reeling that in a bit even after all restrictions are lifted. And a night in cooking a great meal and opening up a nice bottle of wine (that is much cheaper than anything we could buy at a restaurant) can be very satisfying too. One thing that is…

> my discretionary spending has dropped by 95% and my bank account has swelled at a rate that I could have never imagined without much drop in my overall happiness at all and this is likely to lead to changes in spending patterns for years to come. this is somewhat inherent in the system. they message you that you need to be out and about to be happy. it's the capitalistic way. Also a bit of why a lot of jobs work yo…

Living in Europe, I remember the staple of every neighborhood was a bakery and with every meal there was bread on the table. The day started and ended with that loaf. The best I can say for the part of the US i live in now is artisan bakeries that make desserts.

> those types of products are causing problems health wise on a macro scale

I suspect the same thing with most of the food supply in the US. Markets are very good at driving the price of good down while maintaining the quality just "good enough" to satisfy the consumer. Ex. you can get a hamburger for $1 at McD's or 6 nuggets for $1 at BurgerKing. I don't think large scale agriculture can provide high quality food to the masses.

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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Learn how to take care of yourself first. That includes: * learning to cook and prepare your own food. * learn proper sleeping habits and make a routine that feels comfortable. * learn to exercise - pick an activity and do it consistently with some goals in mind. * learn to budget money and manage expenses. * learn to groom yourself and maintain a regular cleanliness routine * learn to entertain yourself alone - with…

Ha, paramount, this is important above all for a healthy mind and soul to be productive

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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Hmm, I can design a wall, analyze a diaper and butcher a sonnet.

Analyzing is the last thing I'd want to do with a diaper...

hum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stool_test

Re: Ask HN: What are some skills you have that are worth learning?

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post #134

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I don’t think that those are good analogies. Cooking for yourself is more akin to bathing yourself or wiping your own butt. It’s super easy if you grow up assuming that you should be doing those things yourself and unbelievably expensive if you pay others to do it for you.

Do you have advice for someone that did not grow up assuming they should be cooking for them self? I've been making an effort to improve myself and it has been rewarding but honestly cooking for myself has been one of the steepest learning curves in my life. It is starting to pay off after months of effort motivated by a once-a-century global disaster. This is not an approachable skill, at all.

The approach I took in college was to ease in to it, not by slowly dialing down the amount of times I ate out, but by buying boxed meals and adding to them:

Buy a cheap food that you can stand that is boxed (mac and cheese, canned soup, ramen) and add some vegetables or pre-cooked meat you like to fill it out. Cook the vegetables with the meal and follow the directions on the box. Even after eight years, I still do this several times a week to have easy cooking days.

Next, try cooking something a little more involved but use a prepared base. Buy pasta or a pizza crust and add your own toppings plus store-bought tomato sauce, for example. Again, the directions should be on the packaging.

Next, choose some foods that you like but don't know how to make yourself. Find a simple recipe and pair it down to the bare minimum. For example, I like lasagna so I found a simple recipe that only had a half-dozen ingredients and bought noodles that don't need to be pre-cooked.

Mix it up with a fully prepared meal (either order take-out or a frozen pizza or something) once or twice a week. When you get started cooking, it can be easy to miss a key nutrient that you need and having a cheat-day where you eat something you're more used to and can't mess up makes things much easier.

When you're starting up, stick to 1-2 cuisine types. Each cuisine has its own staples and commonly used spices, that they combine in different ways. Figure out what makes good staples for your chosen cuisine and how to prepare them (not necessarily from scratch). Find the commonly-used spices and add them to everything, experimenting to see how much you want to add.

For example, Italian food uses a lot of pasta or pizza crusts. Fresh pasta tastes much better than boxed pasta, but isn't shelf-stable. Pasta cooking times are short but generally somewhat precise. To cook Italian pasta, you'd want to learn how to tell that pasta is fully cooked.

Mexican food uses rice and tortillas instead of pasta and pizza crusts. Pre-cooking your tortillas makes a huge difference. Cooking rice in a rice-cooker is easy, and it's do-able in a pot. The trick to cooking rice in a pot is that, since it's steam-cooked, checking the rice early can really slow down and mess-up the process. The first several times will be slow and messy, but once you figure out how long to wait it's actually quite low effort.

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