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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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if what you are referring to were possible

It's not really hard, you just want a system that let's you save your history through a reboot.

even if the browser's storage engine was part of a RAMdisk for each session, such an area would still have to reside in hard disk storage to survive a reboot

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

#202

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It's not really hard, you just want a system that let's you save your history through a reboot.

even if the browser's storage engine was part of a RAMdisk for each session, such an area would still have to reside in hard disk storage to survive a reboot

Needing to survive a reboot isn't necessary. This system would let you know that nothing is being saved. It's not perfect, but it does that thing very well.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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even if the browser's storage engine was part of a RAMdisk for each session, such an area would still have to reside in hard disk storage to survive a reboot

Needing to survive a reboot isn't necessary. This system would let you know that nothing is being saved. It's not perfect, but it does that thing very well.

it is necessary in relation to the original topic of browser history

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

#204

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Needing to survive a reboot isn't necessary. This system would let you know that nothing is being saved. It's not perfect, but it does that thing very well.

it is necessary in relation to the original topic of browser history

>seems like nowadays the only way to ensure and audit personal privacy is by...

Storing the history in memory also solves this half of this problem, and surviving a reboot is not necessary to ensure and audit privacy.

edit I'll stop. I can understand the flaws in this setup, I don't understand why you think it isn't possible/wouldn't solve the problem.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

#205

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it is necessary in relation to the original topic of browser history

>seems like nowadays the only way to ensure and audit personal privacy is by... Storing the history in memory also solves this half of this problem, and surviving a reboot is not necessary to ensure and audit privacy. edit I'll stop. I can understand the flaws in this setup, I don't understand why you think it isn't possible/wouldn't solve the problem.

you cannot store the history in memory and survive a reboot, unless you write the memory to disk, then read into memory from disk on boot, but even then the history is being stored on disk and so is recoverable. surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. I don't know what it is you think I don't think is possible

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

#206

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>seems like nowadays the only way to ensure and audit personal privacy is by... Storing the history in memory also solves this half of this problem, and surviving a reboot is not necessary to ensure and audit privacy. edit I'll stop. I can understand the flaws in this setup, I don't understand why you think it isn't possible/wouldn't solve the problem.

you cannot store the history in memory and survive a reboot, unless you write the memory to disk, then read into memory from disk on boot, but even then the history is being stored on disk and so is recoverable. surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. I don't know what it is you think I don't think is p…

>surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger.

What actual evidence do you have that incognito mode is wiping the history at session end?

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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you cannot store the history in memory and survive a reboot, unless you write the memory to disk, then read into memory from disk on boot, but even then the history is being stored on disk and so is recoverable. surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. I don't know what it is you think I don't think is p…

>surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. What actual evidence do you have that incognito mode is wiping the history at session end?

I did not say that, I said it doesn't store history

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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>surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. What actual evidence do you have that incognito mode is wiping the history at session end?

I did not say that, I said it doesn't store history

It stores history though, go log into any site in incognito mode. It has the same problem your original post highlights, and is an example of a situation where your history not surviving a reboot would not be an issue.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

#209

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I did not say that, I said it doesn't store history

It stores history though, go log into any site in incognito mode. It has the same problem your original post highlights, and is an example of a situation where your history not surviving a reboot would not be an issue.

of course it doesn't actively store history. it doesn't wipe the storage medium so may leave a trace, but that's different. if a browser says it is wiping then there should be proof of this, instead of the "just trust us" stance which the article rightly highlights as dangerous

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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> Putting your users interest first needs to be balanced with remaining profitable so you can keep existing. Although this can be a sound principle for many, I do not agree with it. Brave is not 'entitled' in any way nor should the world bend to make Brave possible. It's a company like any other, with a product like any other and with, IMO, questionable leadrship principles demonstrated over and over again. The marke…

> Brave is not 'entitled' in any way nor should the world bend to make Brave possible. I never said it was entitled, I said it had to balance things to survive. > If I was to build a browser (which btw I am doing) I would put 100% user interest first, at the price of not succeeding in the market. That is the only way I could sleep well at night. A quick look at the history of humanity will show you that even the most…

> I don't think you can never ever ever compromise on anything while accomplishing anything significant.

I don't think you can never ever ever compromise on anything while accomplishing anything significant.

Not with that attitude you don't.

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