I haven't followed Redis Modules so far, what's the best way to start the road towards prod usage if otherwise I rely on the AWS ElastiCache version?
RediSearch – Redis Powered Search Engine
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Re: RediSearch – Redis Powered Search Engine
#12Any advantages over Elasticsearch? EDIT: I did read the article, though I overlooked the link to comparison with Elasticsearch.
One of the things I find so confusing with Elasticsearch is querying. Constructing a complex JSON document for a simple query just doesn't fit my brain. I have tried to put this down to bad/confusing documentation, but I'm not sure anymore.
It seems Redis is moving a bit in the same direction - although not as complex as ES has done it.
Being able to run this inside a Redis instance is a big win, although I suspect few/none of the cloudproviders are willing to pay RedisLabs for the privelige of using the module.
Re: RediSearch – Redis Powered Search Engine
#13What is this "source available" thing in the first paragraph? You can see our source but can't touch it?
You can read about their licenses here: https://redislabs.com/legal/licenses/ Redis Modules created by Redis Labs (e.g. RediSearch, RedisGraph, RedisJSON, RedisML, RedisBloom) are licensed under the Redis Source Available License (RSAL). Here is their RSAL license: https://redislabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/redis-sourc...
Basically you can't use it for a database product, caching engine, stream processing engine, search engine, indexing engine or ML/DL/AI serving engine. I feel just about any web app does at least one of these things.
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#14I haven't followed Redis Modules so far, what's the best way to start the road towards prod usage if otherwise I rely on the AWS ElastiCache version?
I haven't used RediSearch myself for the simple reason that you need to pay for a Redis Enterprise Licence in order to use it.
https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/compare-us/
https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/pricing/
thats not particularly expensive, but a dealbreaker for hobby project on which i would want to use it. sadly, there is no non-commercial licence either.
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You can read about their licenses here: https://redislabs.com/legal/licenses/ Redis Modules created by Redis Labs (e.g. RediSearch, RedisGraph, RedisJSON, RedisML, RedisBloom) are licensed under the Redis Source Available License (RSAL). Here is their RSAL license: https://redislabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/redis-sourc...
Basically you can't use it for a database product, caching engine, stream processing engine, search engine, indexing engine or ML/DL/AI serving engine. I feel just about any web app does at least one of these things.
the correct way to phrase it would be: you cannot use it unless you pay for a licence.
its source is only available so you can look at the implementation if you wish to explore the internals.
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#16I haven't followed Redis Modules so far, what's the best way to start the road towards prod usage if otherwise I rely on the AWS ElastiCache version?
I haven't used RediSearch myself for the simple reason that you need to pay for a Redis Enterprise Licence in order to use it. https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/compare-us/ https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/pricing/ thats not particularly expensive, but a dealbreaker for hobby project on which i would want to use it. sadly, there is no non-commercial licence either.
I have no problem paying for it, but what I miss is a clear recommendation how to get started if you have the rather common case of your own AWS Account using ElastiCache.
If I buy into the Redis Enterprise Cloud, what are it's preferred usage scenarios, how do I secure the connection properly, etc. etc. etc.
This is just shoving a buy button in my face and I have no idea how to decide if what I'm buying is actually feasible for me, for example from a compliance pov.
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#17Any advantages over Elasticsearch? EDIT: I did read the article, though I overlooked the link to comparison with Elasticsearch.
One of the things I find so confusing with Elasticsearch is querying. Constructing a complex JSON document for a simple query just doesn't fit my brain. I have tried to put this down to bad/confusing documentation, but I'm not sure anymore. It seems Redis is moving a bit in the same direction - although not as complex as ES has done it. Being able to run this inside a Redis instance is a big win, although I suspect f…
For my standard use-cases using the query_string query is "good enough", it is the only thing I regularly implement and expose to users. That + some pre-defined aggregations gets you very far. Query String Query can do things like boolean operations (AND, OR, NOT), phrase search, fuzzy search, range search, date math, regex search, boosting: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/curr...
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I haven't used RediSearch myself for the simple reason that you need to pay for a Redis Enterprise Licence in order to use it. https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/compare-us/ https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/pricing/ thats not particularly expensive, but a dealbreaker for hobby project on which i would want to use it. sadly, there is no non-commercial licence either.
I have no problem paying for it, but what I miss is a clear recommendation how to get started if you have the rather common case of your own AWS Account using ElastiCache. If I buy into the Redis Enterprise Cloud, what are it's preferred usage scenarios, how do I secure the connection properly, etc. etc. etc. This is just shoving a buy button in my face and I have no idea how to decide if what I'm buying is actually…
Not an expert, but when I researched this, I think that they run the redis in your AWS account. So it's not an external connection.
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Elastic search adds a huge overhead over Lucene. I suspect the same is true for RediSearch. The test is not testing the engine, but rather the implementation of its distributed aspect.
But RediSearch is not based on Lucene (as claimed here https://redislabs.com/blog/search-benchmarking-redisearch-vs... )
Of course. What I mean is that the performance of distributed FTS is mostly related to its distributed aspect, not FTS by itself.
If I were @aphyr, I would say that performance and correctness are competing, so a more performant distributed system is less correct, unless proved otherwise.
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#20Any advantages over Elasticsearch? EDIT: I did read the article, though I overlooked the link to comparison with Elasticsearch.
Did you even read the article? There's a link in there whith benchmarks it against elasticsearch. Read the conclusion on: https://redislabs.com/blog/search-benchmarking-redisearch-vs...
That link is really well hidden in the article IMO. I read your comment and re-read the article and still had to ctrl+F to find it. (It's the 4th link under "blog posts")