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Did you even read the story? They took it down because it's a network of dozens of paid sock puppets.
Facebook takes down accounts and pages of Roger Stone
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I see this come up a lot and it seems silly, let's summarize: • The ad was about a political stance they disagree with (Antifa) • The upside-down red triangle was specifically used to mark groups of prisoners who participated in anti-nazi political speech So what's the alternative? That the Trump campaign chose an upside-down red triangle in an ad at random because... it's uh... a shape? Do they also have ads with bl…
The triangle wasn't the only Nazi reference. They ran 88 variations of the ad, and the first sentence had 14 words. Both numbers are well-known references used by neo-Nazis for decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_Precepts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words edit: If anyone doesn't believe that "14 words" is a neo-Nazi dog-whistle, here's the Anti-Defamation League's explanation: https://www.adl.org/edu…
Re: Facebook takes down accounts and pages of Roger Stone
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You are not wrong in your assessment. It is clearly bias at play. This will change the social media landscape where you will have platforms delineated by political ideologies. It is sad that it is happening but it is true that voices are being suppressed. Suppression/Censorship of speech has never lead to a free society. The opposite in fact!
What? Did you just read the headline and assume? If we're gonna hold the community responsible for quality of discourse than this should be downvoted. These are just finger pointing with not support. It feels like Twitter comment with no intellectual rigor. This isnt a shot at the writer, instead a commenting on the value added to the dialouge. This seems to be much more "squeaky wheel gets the grease" than some poli…
I have no issues with any social media groups taking action on posts that are explicitly illegal (based on your jurisdiction): child porn, gambling, calls to violence etc. My problem lies in the power that these social media companies enjoy. They can literally influence people in ways that could never have been done in the past. You are always connected to Google or Facebook wherever you go. Through their "audience network" they have nearly 100% reach to every user in the World. Yes that includes any app that you use on your mobile that shows you ads. With that kind of power, these social media companies have more reach than any Government on this planet. They can influence elections in profound ways. They can swing voters to any policy they feel meets their goals. There has to be some sort of regulation that keeps these powers in check! Censorship of voices is just the first step towards building an Orwellian society where every flow of information is controlled by these media giants.
Re: Facebook takes down accounts and pages of Roger Stone
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Did you even read the story? They took it down because it's a network of dozens of paid sock puppets.
There are thousands of networks of paid political and corporate sock puppets exploiting these tech platforms. Some are allowed to get away with it and some are cancelled.
Re: Facebook takes down accounts and pages of Roger Stone
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I see this come up a lot and it seems silly, let's summarize: • The ad was about a political stance they disagree with (Antifa) • The upside-down red triangle was specifically used to mark groups of prisoners who participated in anti-nazi political speech So what's the alternative? That the Trump campaign chose an upside-down red triangle in an ad at random because... it's uh... a shape? Do they also have ads with bl…
Seems Antifa has been affiliated with the upside down red triangle before any Trump campaign images used it[1] [1] https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/47921/36967
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Seems Antifa has been affiliated with the upside down red triangle before any Trump campaign images used it[1] [1] https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/47921/36967
To quote the top answer on that questions: > To claim like the campaign that this would be the symbol, or even a really common one – in the US – seems to not have been true. This changed obviously in a reverse-Streisand now.
Seems, to me, the upside down red triangle is definitely a symbol of Antifa, although perhaps not the most commonly used symbol in the US.
Regardless, the claim that the Trump campaign picked an obvious Nazi symbol just to make Antifa look bad seems very clearly garbage. I, as a sample of one, have never seen that symbol used in a Nazi context before, but that's just me.
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#47> "that included a Nazi symbol" I believe it was an upside down triangle... That's a common symbol and just happened to match an obscure Nazi symbol I think very few people alive today have ever seen before. Just more propaganda repeated over and over. "Nope, it wasn't an upside down triangle, it was a Nazi symbol. Everyone using upside down triangles is hereafter deemed to be making Nazi dogwhistles!"
https://www.spreadshirt.com/shop/design/antifa+posters-D5ed9... https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Antifascist-Red-Triangle...
Re: Facebook takes down accounts and pages of Roger Stone
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What? Did you just read the headline and assume? If we're gonna hold the community responsible for quality of discourse than this should be downvoted. These are just finger pointing with not support. It feels like Twitter comment with no intellectual rigor. This isnt a shot at the writer, instead a commenting on the value added to the dialouge. This seems to be much more "squeaky wheel gets the grease" than some poli…
It is not my responsibility to define whether it is a "platform" or a "publisher" as a user. I feel it is behaving more as a publisher than as a platform. I have explained in detail my reasoning (if you wish to learn more about my stand on this): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23716300 I have no issues with any social media groups taking action on posts that are explicitly illegal (based on your jurisdiction):…
You're just frustrated now because they came for your voice. If they're going to put advertising up against it, they should be held to the same annoying process and responsibility that broadcast media is.
Re: Facebook takes down accounts and pages of Roger Stone
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not wrong in your assessment. It is clearly bias at play. This will change the social media landscape where you will have platforms delineated by political ideologies. It is sad that it is happening but it is true that voices are being suppressed. Suppression/Censorship of speech has never lead to a free society. The opposite in fact!
You are correct. Reddit tried to change all the moderators on the Donald Trump subreddit a few months back and in response the moderators built thedonald.win. After the recent ban wave of subs several others moved to the '.win network'.
Not exactly true. They banned the top mods for not removing problematic content or posting some of their own. This led to there not being enough manpower to manage an active sub. So the remaining mods were instructed to hire new mods based on certain standards, like having a certain karma threshold on the sub.
>After the recent ban wave of subs several others moved to the '.win network'.
What subs are those and do they live on the same domain?