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Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
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Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes but I believe that most causal non techy users just wont put up with it or at least would much prefer a GUI.
With gadgets similar to iPhones and iPads I think we'd be better off designating general purpose computers for professional use, and not having to worry about hypothetical "grandpas" installing malware while checking the weather, especially on Linux.
Yeah I actually agree with you. If the goal was to get more people to use desktop linux / PCs making them more like and iPhone would be good. But I don’t think that’s a good goal to have.
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tend to agree with you, but I really like updating all my software with one click/command. So out of curiosity: My application is already self contained and statically linked, so no AppImage needed, but it behaves like one, you can just run download and run it everywhere. And so what you're describing will be for sure an option for those who like it (in fact currently it's the only option in alpha). How would you l…
Personally, I rarely think about updating my software unless there's a new feature I need or a fix for a bug that's been ruining my life, so just visiting the website when to check for new versions is fine by me. However, you could also include a facility to manually check for updates and either self-update or just show the changelog. Why manually? "I know you're about to do this thing real quick that needs to get do…
> Why manually? "I know you're about to do this thing real quick that needs to get done, but a new version is available! Would you like to twiddle your thumbs for 5 minutes while watching a progress bar?".
That's a very Windows-centric point of view. Programs on Linux can be updated without closing them. You get the new version when you restart them.
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
My favorite anecdote about Snap is the development team's opinion when it comes to users wishing to relocate their ~/snap directory elsewhere. It's a commonly requested feature and being able to move it would follow the Freedesktop.org spec, but the developers don't care.
What's stopping someone from doing: $ ln -s /somewhere-else ~/snap
~/snap would still exist then
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#275From the linked announcement: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906 > Applications in this store cannot be patched, or pinned. You can’t audit them, hold them, modify them or even point snap to a different store. You’ve as much empowerment with this as if you were using proprietary software, i.e. none. This is in effect similar to a commercial proprietary solution, but with two major differences: It runs as root, and it…
I wonder how hard it would be, in theory, to write an open-source "cracked" version of snap that lets you do these things.
Why not simply use Flatpak instead?
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#276Snaps are super laggy. GNOME calculator on Ubuntu runs in a snap and it is baffling that whoever made the decision to package it in a snap by default was OK with the fact that it takes 2 seconds to launch a basic calculator on a 2017 laptop (edit: re-tested, it took 5 seconds). To top it off, a couple months ago my calculator disappeared. For some reason I have been having problems with snap applications disappearing…
I think gnome-calculator was just an experiment for Ubuntu 18.04 to test snap packages. In 20.04 it has been switched back.
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
My favorite anecdote about Snap is the development team's opinion when it comes to users wishing to relocate their ~/snap directory elsewhere. It's a commonly requested feature and being able to move it would follow the Freedesktop.org spec, but the developers don't care.
What's stopping someone from doing: $ ln -s /somewhere-else ~/snap
The problem isn't that the folder exists, the problem is that software is being installed in a non-hidden folder in the home directory. That's supposed to be a space for user files, not system software.
If anything has to be installed in the home folder for some reason, it is supposed to go into .local, so the user doesn't see it among their documents and photos.
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#278Is it time to switch from Ubuntu to Mint? Does Mint have enough repositories that work? I'm at Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and Ubuntu 20 seems to have a host of unwanted Canonical-oriented features. I'd appreciate comments.
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
~/snap is really just wholly unacceptable, how did that even become a thing? Do the people who develop this software never use their own systems?
I have no nice words about the person who thought that folder is acceptable to use. Seriously, what the fuck even?
That and their utter refusal to permit controlling the updates of snaps. They had an announcement where they noted that the community wanted to control their own damn machines, and their solution was something like permitting delayed updates for up to a week.
What the heck is this, windows?
Re: Linux Mint drops Ubuntu Snap packages
#280It's interesting in that I quite like the idea of snap packages, just not their implementation. I recently purged snaps from my Ubuntu Mate machines after a few years of use because of the realization of only using two: 1. The micro terminal editor. 2. Chromium, because it was forced. Well, #1 was packaged for 20.04 so I didn't need it any longer. That left Chromium. For that single package, I had to tolerate my syst…
I believe it's not even ~/snap, but specifically /home/$LOGNAME/snap:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1620771
https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-can-i-use-snap-when-i-dont-...