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VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

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Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

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I think the argument here is suffering as the business is questionable, though I wholeheartedly agree that pointing a founder to a blog post and pretending that counts as mentorship is bullshit.

> none of the VCs I contacted even tried downloading my app (I use Intercom daily to see all the new users trying our app). They dismissed its worth without even giving it a shot.

Fair, but I just had a look at the app store - this had two reviews since late January (when about ninety-five 5* reviews were posted over a few days), and neither were positive.

Additionally, a cursory search for personal trainer apps will turn up dozens of well-rated alternatives. Putting myself in the mind of a VC, I would be hard-pressed to invest or advise the founder of such a company.

Would love to learn more about why the VCs wouldn’t respond to her emails, though - seems like another failure to meet the commitment.

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

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Seems like the most compelling evidence of racially-disparate treatment is that she got no responses when reaching out via her own email address, but received some responses when reaching out via her husband's (he is an Asian-American man with a recognizably Asian name). Assuming the emails sent were identical, this would be pretty solid evidence of bias. One potential confounding issue is that her husband is a forme…

Any particular instance is not proof of racism. But I suspect VCs as an industry is biased against Black people because of its closed network nature and the lack of black founders in general for the VCs to pattern match. This should be especially acute for early stage investing when much relied on intuition and the "quality of the team".

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

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Seems like the most compelling evidence of racially-disparate treatment is that she got no responses when reaching out via her own email address, but received some responses when reaching out via her husband's (he is an Asian-American man with a recognizably Asian name). Assuming the emails sent were identical, this would be pretty solid evidence of bias. One potential confounding issue is that her husband is a forme…

I’m curious about the email thing too. If she was using the ceo@bright email in the blogpost, I can see that getting filtered before any human read the contents, otherwise it’d be foolish to not give the time of day to a person who fits their advocacy profile, regardless of the business’ viability.

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

#24
Venture Capital started out as high-risk, high-reward high technology investments. Genentech, LSI, Teradyne, BTU International, and Apple. As Sam Altman, Thiel et al, and others have noted, VC lost its way since the late 80s and started focusing on widgets and "blitzkrieg" capital. The point of differentiation shifted from proprietary semiconductor or recombinant DNA technology to the ability to deploy large amounts of capital at scale, quickly.

What has mattered has also shifted. Uber's ride hailing solution was a revolution, of sorts, but it was an incrementalist one. The breakthrough that led to the production of synthetic insulin was a transformative one. Uber isn't a sustainable business. Genentech is still alive and kicking.

The personality types that are chosen for to create a business where the only metric of "innovation" is growth and genentech are different. In one, Steve Woz is a viable co-founder. In the other, he simply isn't, and is filtered out actively and implicitly.

There is discrimination in Venture Capital, that much is clear. But this issue makes it far worse. As it creates an ineffable bar that is vague and entirely defined in the VC's head. It is easier to answer the question if someone is a genius. Because genius is genius no matter the gender identity or race. A scientific or technological breakthrough is a breakthrough. No matter the origin. But the ability to "blitzkrieg" a business? Who knows.

When the only metric for success is rapid growth, and the only way for rapid growth to be predicted is for it to happen, it creates a murky set of rubrics and metrics where the number of bad companies by white/asian, cis-male founders who went to Stanford outnumber the number of great ones by people who don't qualify for those checkmarks.

The new system delivers sub-par returns and it is obvious that an alternative is needed. Despite great work being done by people like 1517 fund, Sam Altman's new firm, YC, Founder's Fund, Lux Capital etc, the industry isn't actively seeking out people with potential breakthroughs. It is creating artificial barriers to their success. Personally, the most significant sign that something is wrong with the ecosystem is that a potential breakthrough in phenotypic screening of pharmaceutical molecules wasn't sought out https://www.daphnia-labs.com , but the "Uber for X" by Template Stanford Founder Y will be.

It is also apparent that an alternate financing system is needed for companies that aren't technologically innovative, such as Nerissa's but aren't quite small businesses either. Companies that do fall under the "high-growth potential" label, while lacking the other qualities.

The blurring between VC, traditional PE, and small business banking have led to sub-par outcomes for all involved.

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

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I think the argument here is suffering as the business is questionable, though I wholeheartedly agree that pointing a founder to a blog post and pretending that counts as mentorship is bullshit. > none of the VCs I contacted even tried downloading my app (I use Intercom daily to see all the new users trying our app). They dismissed its worth without even giving it a shot. Fair, but I just had a look at the app store…

As far as why VCs wouldn't respond to emails, from my brief time working at a VC firm I think the logic was either 1) We don't want to start a conversation and give them false hope and 2) Not replying makes it seem like we're too busy and important to respond to everyone (and also there was some thought process of we don't owe anyone anything in the same way the average person doesn't feel obligated to respond to spam emails)

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

#26

If there is VC racism, doesn't that also mean there is a market opportunity for VC money to focus exclusively on African American tech startups. Even if there aren't many, there appears to be zero competition selecting investments. The author is rightfully frustrated. But instead of focussing on lack of interest in their app, maybe there's a bigger opportunity here.

Hopefully there's more, but here's a few: Backstage Capital ( https://backstagecapital.com/ ) TxO ( https://a16z.com/2020/06/03/talent-x-opportunity/ )

I'd add Harlem Capital there https://harlem.capital/

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

#27

The part about Nguyen was frustrating. It's hard to imagine a more honest hypocrisy than explicitly saying, on the record, that one will be forthcoming and helpful towards the marginalized, and ending up being just as dismissive and unengaged as everybody else.

I get the sentiment, but Ha was more helpful than she realized. I've been in this game from both sides the table. From this post, it's pretty clear she does lack basic knowledge.

She needs to understand how VCs are evaluating her business, what metrics and data she needs to show, and what types of businesses are even a match for the VC model.

Ha's post covers much of that. And having been in VC, the fact Ha even spent time giving advice is more than 90% of cold reachouts to VC can expect with a Google resume or not.

VCs write these 101 posts because they want founders to know when it's time to come to them and how to present the info. That's very much what she makes it seem she needed.

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

#28
It seems like the author could search and replace “racism” with “sexism” and put out an otherwise similar article based on her experience having to use her husband’s LinkedIn rolodex to reach these people.

I think it’s shameful that VCs make empty promises to support black founders - but it’s also not surprising. Most of the people paying lip service to racial equity now didn’t give a shit six weeks ago before it was fashionable to do so. But empty promises are par for the course as they’ve been for decades. My experience living in Minneapolis where George Floyd was murdered is that the same people suddenly promising to fix the problem are the ones who created it.

VCs only want to make money. The author raised insufficient evidence that she was a victim of racism. If any unfair discrimination occurred it’s more likely sexism. But the simplest explanation is also the most likely: the VCs just weren’t interested in her pitch.

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

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Does she offer any actual evidence that she was rejected due to racism? She just seems to assume it.

The part where she doesn't get a response when using her email but does when using her partner's email is pretty convincing. There are many studies that gauge racism in hiring by sending out resumes that only differ in candidate's name.

Is she similarly qualified?

I never realized these racism studies were done using such different resumes. This is a bit shocking if so.

You have a multi-exit google engineer vs a trainer?

She doesn't share her deck?

A quick look - did she buy reviews (the block of 5 star reviews)?

Re: VCs Promised to Help Black Founders – My Experience Shows a Different Reality

#30
VCs shouldn’t be the gatekeepers to capital. The game is rigged. Who gets funding is decided by arbitrary metrics, inherent biases, and already established networks. Personally I’m planning on bootstrapping my own business and don’t plan on asking a VC for a hand.
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