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Re: Flutter for Linux

#21

Does Flutter have a native HTML widget yet? It didn't when I first started poking around with Flutter, and a quick Google doesn't reveal anything first-party.

A number of packages provide webview, which can be used to render html pages.

Re: Flutter for Linux

#22

What is the off chance that Google will drop Flutter?

Only iff they drop Fuchisa.

And if they drop Fuchisa and flutter has enough (relevant) apps using it in the Android Ecosystem they probably would keep it still around.

But my guess is that one long play Google want's to keep open for them is to start replacing Android with Fuchisa and push for a ecosystem where they have control more similar to apple. I.e. directly push updates to phones without the phone manufacturer as middle man. As this is a source of a lot of problems with Android making it less competitive against iOs.

Re: Flutter for Linux

#23

What is the off chance that Google will drop Flutter?

My hunch is that Google is trying to migrate away from Android. Flutter is both the abstraction layer to do that and the new SDK for the new platform.

If that's the case, it's higly unlikely.

Re: Flutter for Linux

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post #17

What is the off chance that Google will drop Flutter?

This matters only if Flutter is a closed source project – but it's not. You can fork it on Github right now and continue working on it even if Google pulls its engineers off. I'd assume that those of us (and there seem be a lot of people) invested in it will continue working on it.

It might make it even more interesting for some people ;-)

Re: Flutter for Linux

#25
Great news for sure. There's a React Native application that I am maintaining; it's not too complex but I would love to give a rewrite a try with Flutter and see how it does on Ubuntu.

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#26
post #15

I'm actually a great fan of flutter and imo it is the best cross-platform solution out there. Probably except for web: though it produces very good result performance-wise, the end result is never really "web" and doesn't act like traditional web. As for desktop applications(whether it be windows, linux or mac), it seems like it's too mobile-oriented. I see great potential for simple solutions like self-service opera…

Flutter's ability to "compile to web" was something that confused me at first as well, but on second thought it's genius. It makes it easier to ease managers into selecting Flutter since deployments and updates are done via a web browser. If that works for them then maybe there's never a need to go fully native though that option exists if they want to -- and the ability to go back to compiling for web gives managers a sense of "this isn't a one-way, I'm screwed if something goes wrong" journey.

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post #7

I haven’t dug into this, but I wonder what compatibility this will have with window managers, like i3

I've just tested on regular i3 (no Sway).

Works pretty well until you start moving or resizing the window but once I did it crashed the app a couple of times.

I also couldn't start the app fullscreen on a 4K display - it just displayed a small black rectangle. Other than that it felt fast and smooth.

It is an alpha though, so I thought it was promising nonetheless.

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#28
I have a request for all the Flutter folks/fans - it would be great if you all can say something about how you can get over / stay sane with the staircase looking nesting of code blocks and how you manage to keep it all in your head to navigate the code base.

I started my career writing single threaded Palm OS apps (64k limit) - there was like 10 possible widgets with 5 possible events on each widget and rest of it was application code. Mobile app development is a different beast now. Yes, I sound like old-man-yelling-at-cloud. Is this table-stakes for all UI and App development?

Re: Flutter for Linux

#29

What is the off chance that Google will drop Flutter?

Only iff they drop Fuchisa. And if they drop Fuchisa and flutter has enough (relevant) apps using it in the Android Ecosystem they probably would keep it still around. But my guess is that one long play Google want's to keep open for them is to start replacing Android with Fuchisa and push for a ecosystem where they have control more similar to apple. I.e. directly push updates to phones without the phone manufacture…

"Only if they drop Fuchsia."

I hate to say it, but this is beginning to look like a real possibility. It looks like Google has been implementing into Android a lot of the modular, "make the system easier to update" aspects of Fuchsia with each release of Android. I think Oracle's continuing fight to make Google pay financially for using Java is doing more to keep Fuchsia alive anything else. If Oracle relents then it's possible that Nest devices (the only Fuchsia-based products currently shipping afaik) could eventually switch to an IoT version of Android... but since Oracle is a litigation firm that also happens to sell databases I don't see them ever stopping the lawsuits.

Re: Flutter for Linux

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post #10

Google needs to release desktop apps in Flutter (Youtube Music, Chat, Meet etc..). a Webapp is fine for occasional use, but Google Chat can't compete with Slack without a real app.

Totally. You definitely can't compete against Slack's desktop app with web technologies: https://slack.engineering/building-hybrid-applications-with-...
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