Live data from Hacker News

Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

vice.com

81–87 of 87 posts

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you can think of another reason for publishing specific activities of private individuals from years ago that serves the public interest Donald Trump's history of sexual harassment. I don't want a womanizer to be President, even if it was socially acceptable to do a bunch of coke and fuck your EA or teenagers at the time.

Donald Trump is a public figure. My above points concern private individuals .

Replace Donald Trump with my coworkers or boss or CEO.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Donald Trump is a public figure. My above points concern private individuals .

Replace Donald Trump with my coworkers or boss or CEO.

Yeah, that's where it firmly crosses the line regarding public interest. Whatever we allow to be done to others can just as well happen to us. Never forget:

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace Donald Trump with my coworkers or boss or CEO.

Yeah, that's where it firmly crosses the line regarding public interest. Whatever we allow to be done to others can just as well happen to us. Never forget: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was no…

This isn't about public interest. This isn't the law. This isn't the government.

This is my (or my company's) interest. You can't tell me who I have to interact with. You are free to speech, but you are not free from consequences. If you're an asshole, people aren't going to want to hang out with you.

And personally, I don't want people who sexually harass or rape their EAs near me or in public office. I don't want people who grab women by the pussy to be my boss or my peer or my employee. That's my choice.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that's where it firmly crosses the line regarding public interest. Whatever we allow to be done to others can just as well happen to us. Never forget: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was no…

This isn't about public interest. This isn't the law. This isn't the government. This is my (or my company's) interest. You can't tell me who I have to interact with. You are free to speech, but you are not free from consequences. If you're an asshole, people aren't going to want to hang out with you. And personally, I don't want people who sexually harass or rape their EAs near me or in public office. I don't want p…

That is your choice, but journalists must be held to a higher standard regarding what they publish about past events concerning private persons—that’s the subject of this thread.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about public interest. This isn't the law. This isn't the government. This is my (or my company's) interest. You can't tell me who I have to interact with. You are free to speech, but you are not free from consequences. If you're an asshole, people aren't going to want to hang out with you. And personally, I don't want people who sexually harass or rape their EAs near me or in public office. I don't want p…

That is your choice, but journalists must be held to a higher standard regarding what they publish about past events concerning private persons—that’s the subject of this thread.

Journalists should be held to a higher standard in the context of whether the content they journal is fact or fiction. As long as they are not committing libel, I want to know if private people are abusers, even if it falls within the law.

There should not be a statute of limitations on truth.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is your choice, but journalists must be held to a higher standard regarding what they publish about past events concerning private persons—that’s the subject of this thread.

Journalists should be held to a higher standard in the context of whether the content they journal is fact or fiction. As long as they are not committing libel, I want to know if private people are abusers, even if it falls within the law. There should not be a statute of limitations on truth.

This is primarily talking about actions that are normal and socially acceptable today (or in the time in which they took place). Abuse does not fit that category.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I took what Facebook presents to me through my feed as a news source to influence my POV, I might believe that Obama is a secret Muslim, or that Trump was done away with years ago, and is instead an alien, or that Helen Hunt, the actress, is involved in international child trafficking, or perhaps that COVID-19 was put in place to control the world's population. In my experience, all Facebook does is reveal and fee…

It's not like the NYTs doesn't have a history of spreading unfounded 'conspiracy theories' too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_aluminum_tubes#September... In terms of damage done to society, I think all the examples you list combined still pale in comparison to that single example.

Perhaps. The NYT is one source published daily. Facebook has millions of conversations happening among friends and loose connections happening daily about supposed conspiracy theories. I propose that the scale that results from the viral nature of this distribution dwarfs what the NYT could possibly do.
Post reply on HN