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Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by redblacktree »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #39
midrus wrote: post #9

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Because that 1% of people are lives that still matter??? WTF... I can't believe this.

Not to be insensitive, but we can’t assume a vaccine will be developed. Flattening the curve of infection (under this assumption) still has a similar area under the curve... (i.e. people are going to get infected, people are going to die because the virus is not going away).

Don't discount treatment methodologies. People who get the virus now are more likely to live than those who got it early, since health professionals are learning which treatments work. The area under the curve will not be the same if we buy time for our doctors and researchers to understand more about the virus and its effect on the body.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by clairity »

kick wrote: post #128
clairity wrote: post #125

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there's almost no intellectual curiosity and open-mindedness exhibited in any of these covid-related threads, so they should be flagged according to the site guidelines. fear manifests irrationally when control is beyond reach, including wishing the death of someone they don't know other than via press snippets (which is not to say bolsonaro is a saint, but most of us in the US know next to nothing about him except "…

fear manifests irrationally when control is beyond reach, including wishing the death of someone they don't know other than via press snippets (which is not to say bolsonaro is a saint, but most of us in the US know next to nothing about him except "bad"). This is a terrible viewpoint: it's not difficult at all to find out Bolsonaro's viewpoints and actions. We don't live in the 1950s any longer: politicians broadcas…

yes, but that requires some level of interest in, and active search for, information about bolsonaro. how many americans other than folks with connections to brazil (or thereabouts) would that be? relatively few, i'd wager.

wishing death without understanding is itself terrible, tyrannical actually. most americans don't have, or wish to seek, the context to make any definitive claims about a stranger, especially concerning death.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by redblacktree »

burgerzzz wrote: post #73
midrus wrote: post #9

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Because that 1% of people are lives that still matter??? WTF... I can't believe this.

I find this ironic in that the same people now suddenly believe every single life needs to be protected were the same people who supported drone strikes throughout the Middle East when it was Obama taking the lives. Now the "other guys" are risking lives and it's politically expedient, so everyone on one side of the political spectrum just joins this chorus of every life matters sans critical thought, devoid of any w…

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Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by midrus »

burgerzzz wrote: post #73
midrus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that 1% of people are lives that still matter??? WTF... I can't believe this.

I find this ironic in that the same people now suddenly believe every single life needs to be protected were the same people who supported drone strikes throughout the Middle East when it was Obama taking the lives. Now the "other guys" are risking lives and it's politically expedient, so everyone on one side of the political spectrum just joins this chorus of every life matters sans critical thought, devoid of any w…

Why do you think my comment he anything to do with politics? Your country is not the only country in the world. I'm not even from your continent.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by mercer »

gizmo wrote: post #70
midrus wrote: post #9

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Because that 1% of people are lives that still matter??? WTF... I can't believe this.

We didn't lock down for the Hong Kong flu or similar pandemics, because the damage caused by a lockdown is immense. Health damage caused by delayed cancer screenings and organ transplants. Psychological damage caused by lockdown and unemployment. Unbelievable economic damage. How to respond to a pandemic is a trade-off. People die in traffic accidents every day. Do we set a nation-wide speed limit of 5 MPH? No. Of co…

How does not knowing how bad Covid is or might be figure into your approach?

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by mercer »

SomeoneFromCA wrote: post #130
mcv wrote: post #129

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Trump is stupid, but he is also a germophobe. Bolsonaro is stupid and not a germophobe. Putin, of course, is neither, but quite happy to see the rest of the world in chaos.

Putin has become one, anecdotally.

Would love elaboration.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by mercer »

clairity wrote: post #132
kick wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fear manifests irrationally when control is beyond reach, including wishing the death of someone they don't know other than via press snippets (which is not to say bolsonaro is a saint, but most of us in the US know next to nothing about him except "bad"). This is a terrible viewpoint: it's not difficult at all to find out Bolsonaro's viewpoints and actions. We don't live in the 1950s any longer: politicians broadcas…

yes, but that requires some level of interest in, and active search for, information about bolsonaro. how many americans other than folks with connections to brazil (or thereabouts) would that be? relatively few, i'd wager. wishing death without understanding is itself terrible, tyrannical actually. most americans don't have, or wish to seek, the context to make any definitive claims about a stranger, especially conc…

> yes, but that requires some level of interest in, and active search for, information about bolsonaro. how many americans other than folks with connections to brazil (or thereabouts) would that be? relatively few, i'd wager.

Sure, but I'd wager most of the HN crowd knows enough to know that he's a piece of shit. I most certainly feel like it'd be wonderful and poetic if he died to Covid!

Also what's the point of your comment other than expressing some weird kind of arrogance?

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by SwiftyBug »

EForEndeavour wrote: post #93
thepangolino wrote: post #37

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He definitely seems to be handling it quite alright. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG0WaCmO56E

So did Boris Johnson, who announced his positive test on March 27 in a Twitter video which showed him perfectly lucid and without noticeable symptoms [1]. He posted regular video updates, appearing quite healthy in all of them, but his condition suddenly worsened on April 6, a full 10 days after his initial announcement video [2]. This is anecdata, of course, but Bolsonaro is 65, a full 9 years older than Johnson, so…

Boris Johnson is 9 years younger than Bolsonaro? He sure looks rough.

Re: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

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Post by SwiftyBug »

petre wrote: post #117
pucallpa wrote: post #105

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while he makes more damage to his people ?

He was elected by 55% of the very same people. His people. Voting is mandatory in Brazil and one gets a fine of 3.51 BRL and has to provide justification if they fail to participate.

Voting is mandatory but one can nullify their vote, vote blank or just not vote at all (thus, having to pay the fine) which was the case of 30% of the votes in the last presidential election in Brazil. So the actual percentage of people who wanted him as president is much lower than 55%.
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