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Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by mkroman »

duxup wrote: post #40

I've always wondered if you could automate a sort of standard assembly system with a certain amount of adjustments within some parameters (device dimensions, how things are connected)... and pump out any number of different electronics all on the same assembly line / factory using the same robots? Granted that probably already is a thing, or isn't for good reason.

As you might imagine, this is already the case in places like Shenzhen - there's off the shelf “building blocks” for machines - not necessarily to any written standard, though. In this[1] Strange Parts video he mentions it. If you watch some of his other videos you'll start to notice that many of the machines actually look similar - I highly recommend watching them, they're great.

[1]: https://youtu.be/PZBQzLfCKpw?t=1019

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by filoleg »

baybal2 wrote: post #111
Retric wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla tried it because the technology was mostly ready back then. The difference is a PlayStation has vastly fewer cables, far simpler routing, and problems can more easily be fixed. People can physically pick up a PlayStation diagnosis the problem and then put it back, try to do that with a car.

Is Tesla model S was made to be manufactured on a "lights out" line, it will look like their Cybertruck.

What does "lights out" mean here? Is it a way to describe a nearly fully-automated production line?

If that's the case, then aren't they using it for Model 3/Y already? If yes, then I have to disagree with you, because neither of those cars look anything like Cybertruck, even stylistically.

EDIT: thanks for explanation in the replies, it makes sense. If anyone has any additional insight as to how it affects production lines that are, let's say, 90% automated and 10% manual, your contribution would be heavily appreciated.

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by monksy »

Sebb767 wrote: post #85
monksy wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you that I don't think the PS5 will be a major upgrade. It may be a hardware refresh but that's about it. I think that you may be brining up a valid point we have a standards body to define the standards and labeling for the capacity of a gaming machine. (That would prevent games from always demanding the absolute latest hardware). However, a lot of the issues with the PS4 is you have sony trying to cont…

> Android took off because it wasn't one manufacturer having control over the OS. Yet iOS really started that market and maintains its customers exactly because it's a single company controlling the OS (and doing it rather well, to be fair). And while its market share isn't that of Android, it can hardly be called a failure.

I would call that luck. As soon as Apple runs out of an audience that platform is dead. (Symbian could have done the same thing)

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by Dork1234 »

baybal2 wrote: post #111
Retric wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla tried it because the technology was mostly ready back then. The difference is a PlayStation has vastly fewer cables, far simpler routing, and problems can more easily be fixed. People can physically pick up a PlayStation diagnosis the problem and then put it back, try to do that with a car.

Is Tesla model S was made to be manufactured on a "lights out" line, it will look like their Cybertruck.

filelog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lights_out_(manufacturing)

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by tantalor »

filoleg wrote: post #122
baybal2 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Tesla model S was made to be manufactured on a "lights out" line, it will look like their Cybertruck.

What does "lights out" mean here? Is it a way to describe a nearly fully-automated production line? If that's the case, then aren't they using it for Model 3/Y already? If yes, then I have to disagree with you, because neither of those cars look anything like Cybertruck, even stylistically. EDIT: thanks for explanation in the replies, it makes sense. If anyone has any additional insight as to how it affects productio…

The pure definition of “lights out” refers to a fully automated facility where human hands never touch a product during the entire manufacturing process. In theory, a true lights-out plant would operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with downtime only for routine maintenance or repair.

https://www.assemblymag.com/articles/94982-lights-out-automa...

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by outworlder »

hobofan wrote: post #34

If you enjoy that you will probably also enjoy the fully-automated Valve Steam Controller assembly line (including video)[0]. [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/11/9890914/valves-steam-con...

Awesome video.

I got some Satisfactory vibes out of it.

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by wnevets »

mrlala wrote: post #120
wnevets wrote: post #107

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that assembly line looked better than the controller.

The controller completely serves it's purpose- replacement for a pure mouse control for non-controller native games. Anyone thinking they should always use a steam controller over a 360 controller for pure controller didn't understand the point of it.

> The controller completely serves it's purpose- replacement for a pure mouse control for non-controller native games.

Maybe I didn't give it enough time but it definitely didn't do that for me. I gave up trying to use it as a mouse replacement and as a normal controller. Here's a video of Internet Superstar Rich Evans solving that problem much more effectively [0].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qQy-rEUgg&feature=youtu.be...

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by hobofan »

bserge wrote: post #118
hobofan wrote: post #34

If you enjoy that you will probably also enjoy the fully-automated Valve Steam Controller assembly line (including video)[0]. [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/11/9890914/valves-steam-con...

Amazing stuff. I imagine soon enough people will stop asking for "Made in [your own country]", and start asking for "Made by humans"

You mean like the trend of "Artisan" products that's been going on (maybe ended already?) the last decade with Etsy and hipsters?

Re: Playstation's secret weapon: a nearly all-automated factory

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Post by outworlder »

wnevets wrote: post #107
hobofan wrote: post #34

If you enjoy that you will probably also enjoy the fully-automated Valve Steam Controller assembly line (including video)[0]. [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/11/9890914/valves-steam-con...

that assembly line looked better than the controller.

Have you used it? It's pretty good.
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