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Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

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Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#31
Meh.

"Powerful people complain about journalists. –News at 11"

This has been going on since the day the first broadsheets were written in cuneiform.

What matters, is what people do, when it comes to stuff like this. I'd say the Ebay folks, sending the bloggers pig's head masks was more alarming.

“Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel.” –Mark Twain

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#32
post #4

>The call shows how Silicon Valley millionaires, who have been coddled by the press and lauded as innovators and disruptors, fundamentally misunderstand the role of journalism the moment it turns a critical eye to their industry. No, I would argue that journalists don't understand that their role requires objectivity, and that the whole industry is broken because it has been completely dominated by ideologues, top to…

This has been the status quo regarding taboo topics for as long as human language has existed, and I don't think it has much to do with the journalism industry.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#33
too long to read ;

balaji has a beef with mainstream journalists since many months ago, and probably rightly so. I can't help but feel however that this whole outrage is covert advertising for Clubhouse which (even though i am not famous enough to use) seems basically a repackaging of the decades-old concept of phone hotlines.

That said, balaji is right, the media overplayed their role as arbiters of truth and are now losing. I d trust my twitter feed better than any paper.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#36

> On Wednesday night, the topic of conversation was Lorenz herself, who had been listening earlier in the conversation but left partway through. After she left, the participants began discussing whether Lorenz was playing "the woman card" when speaking out about her harassment following a Twitter altercation with Srinivasan. > "You can't fucking hit somebody, attack them and just say, 'Hey, I have ovaries and therefo…

1.) In all fairness, those are two different people making those statements. It lacks a certain self-awareness I agree, but it's not to the same degree if it had been the same person.

2.) I genuinely believe it's due to social media. Twitter specifically is very divisive and that's where most journalists gather. The feedback loops are too rewarding. You call out a "tech bro" for saying something racist and you're rewarded with thousands of likes and retweets. It drives people to seek that out at all costs.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#38
This article employs the same malicious cropping Taylor Lorenz did that made people so mad. I think the origin story is not that she complained about the CEO of Away, it was that when Balaji copied her exact wording, she cropped out the origin picture that showed this and claimed harassment.

Journalists seem incredibly tone deaf -- do they ever wonder why people dislike them? It's because they employ so many subtle lies like this all the time.

Journalists really need to get off twitter - it ruins their credibility. If this is how they act for some crap drama, it calls into question all sorts of 'important' articles and op-eds

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#39
This aside from the author of the article made me laugh:

(In 2020, the idea that fishing for “clicks” to drive ad revenue is a successful or even common business model is a fallacy. Publications that rely exclusively on advertising are failing at an astonishing rate; financially, many journalistic outlets are increasingly moving away from an ad-based revenue model driven by traffic, and instead focus on live events, subscriptions, optioning their articles to movie studios, and other models that rely on having a dedicated readership that trusts the publication).

Yes, clickbait is a really uncommon business model, and loads of Vice articles are being made into movies. The lack of self-awareness is breathtaking.

Re: Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App

#40
The kind of journalism that these people do is dead as a professional information-delivery job because it is outcompeted by obsessive bloggers since the advent of the ubiquitous Internet. It is an entertainment business and behaves like an entertainment business, which means that the participants are incentivized to create buzz, etc.

If your news sources are primarily these, then you’re missing out on a lot of actionable information. All that stuff is now in private conversations because the general audience is gotcha-obsessed. P

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