Every VC nerd tweeting about Clubhouse reminds me of the Robert Scoble influencer strategy for the Google Glass.
This is one of the best takes I've seen. Ahh....Scoble....I remember those days.
Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No, I would argue that journalists don't understand that their role requires objectivity Based on what? Objectivity hasn't been required since the printing press was invented
It's required because a democratic society relies on a healthy press. These are supposed to be scholars, with a code of ethics, dedicated to documentation. Journalists are not supposed to actually interfere in the system they are observing (e.g. by calling for de-platforming) because then they go from being journalists to being activists. Edit: To be clear, I have no problem with newspapers including opinion articles…
Journalists are not mere observers, they are a part of the system itself and so cannot help but interfere with it.
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#23If ever there was a one sided article, it was this. Doesn't even talk about the nuances of the problems. Journalists are like how dare tech people are criticizing us - but it is totally ok to do it the other way round. The difference now though is, because of social media, prominent tech personalities have much bigger audiences.
Sometimes I am thankful like services like Twitter and Facebook exists since these types of biases are for everyone to see and make independent calls on. Before, it would have been like whatever NYTimes said would be taken as the truth as there would have been no platform available to present your pov.
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#24Flagged for petty bickering. I don't understand why people post and upvote chatter they would be downvoted to oblivion if it were posted as comments on HN. We can do better.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No, I would argue that journalists don't understand that their role requires objectivity Based on what? Objectivity hasn't been required since the printing press was invented
It's required because a democratic society relies on a healthy press. These are supposed to be scholars, with a code of ethics, dedicated to documentation. Journalists are not supposed to actually interfere in the system they are observing (e.g. by calling for de-platforming) because then they go from being journalists to being activists. Edit: To be clear, I have no problem with newspapers including opinion articles…
You're asking for a state of affairs that had never existed.
De-platforming/cancelling is the hip word at the moment, and powerful people are getting nervous, because it is the rabble instead of the powerful doing the canceling.
I have two responses: (1) The amount of self-awareness demonstrated by the elites tends to be related to how they fair in peasant revolts. (2) People have short memories, the class-driven state of affairs you prefer will be back soon enough.
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#27> On Wednesday night, the topic of conversation was Lorenz herself, who had been listening earlier in the conversation but left partway through. After she left, the participants began discussing whether Lorenz was playing "the woman card" when speaking out about her harassment following a Twitter altercation with Srinivasan. > "You can't fucking hit somebody, attack them and just say, 'Hey, I have ovaries and therefo…
1. Yes
2. Yes
Answers to both your questions requires self-introspection and experience with diversity of people from all levels, so will go wooosh over most people's heads, or they will bin it as "sort of PC".
We're being given a mirror that creates what we see in it.
Yes, this effectively perpetuates crisis.
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#28> On Wednesday night, the topic of conversation was Lorenz herself, who had been listening earlier in the conversation but left partway through. After she left, the participants began discussing whether Lorenz was playing "the woman card" when speaking out about her harassment following a Twitter altercation with Srinivasan. > "You can't fucking hit somebody, attack them and just say, 'Hey, I have ovaries and therefo…
> The lack of self awareness is incredible.
I mostly agree that journalism is an overwhelmingly toxic profession.
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#29The writer of this article is a journalist , so the portrayal may be less than fair. That being said, and speaking generally (not about VCs or rich people in particular), something is going terribly wrong when a private person can be publicly shamed in the press 15 years from now for doing something that is completely normal and socially acceptable today , and lose their job as a result.
> a private person can be publicly shamed in the press 15 years from now for doing something that is completely normal and socially acceptable today
This industry created the tools which made it feasible. Before social media, most people simply didn't have a public record of things they said years ago. This industry also created the platforms on which this sort of behavior flourishes. Journalists may have some bad habits, but the tech industry gave them nuclear weapons.
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#30Every VC nerd tweeting about Clubhouse reminds me of the Robert Scoble influencer strategy for the Google Glass.
Its only fun to have an exclusive hangout that doesn't let in the unwashed masses if you can brag to the unwashed masses.