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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by nix23 »

yaiNua9o wrote: post #57
paulryanrogers wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can load local extensions from about:debugging. They just won't be permanently installed. (Developer edition may be different.) And Chrome's local loading comes with a disable modal at every startup. So I'm curious what browser you consider worthy. Edit: forgot to mention you can install from 3p sources as I've done from my own site in the past. They just need to be signed by Mozilla first.

Yes, you can temporarily load extensions in firefox, but I certainly won't reload all my extensions manually at every startup :) I don't think there's really a good browser for both privacy and hacking. I use chromium when I have no choice (not sure what you're referring to concerning the disable modal ; if it's an issue with chromium too, I haven't hit it, and I have 11 extensions loaded from sources). But my "main…

Try mothra, the browser for the real 'hackers' ;)

http://man.9front.org/1/mothra

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by patrickaljord »

girst wrote: post #4

well, compared to undisclosed affiliate marketing for trading sites[1], soliciting of donations without consent[2] or the recent redirection through affiliate links[3], this seems pretty tame. [1]: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/8793 [2]: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/01/13/brave-web-br... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23442027

About [1], read the reply from the devs, seems reasonable and it was announced on their blog, it was temporary and could be turned off at anytime. Besides eToro is a well established site in Europe to buy stocks (no affiliations here), the reporter seems to really hate them for some reasons.

[2] was fixed a while ago as mentioned in your link.

[3] was also fixed quickly.

I don't know if you've ever run a company but if you do, I hope your users won't attack you and remember every single mistakes you've ever made even if just 3.

Disclaimer: I don't work for Brave and rarely use it sometimes as secondary browser.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by gruez »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #35
canofbars wrote: post #25

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The best way to wipe an SSD is to have full disk encryption and then wipe the key off the ssd. Even if you do manage to recover the key which is a big if, you still need the key in your brain. Combined with writing random data over the ssd you will be lucky to pull anything out of it.

Or fill it with some AAA Steam games shouldnt take long to fill the whole thing.

I'm not sure why you'd want to do that, considering that it's inefficient (it requires internet access, and it's capped by its speed), and you're rolling the dice on whether it's wiped or not. eg. if you have 100GB of free space to wipe, and the closest you can get to 100GB with your steam games is 95GB, then there's a 5% chance that your data would still be on the disk. Doing something like

   cat /dev/urandom > /path/to/mount/point/temp.bin && fysnc && rm /path/to/mount/point/temp.bin
is much more reliable and isn't dependent on your internet.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by intopieces »

rydre wrote: post #21
kohtatsu wrote: post #9

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Are you a former DDG employee? And to clarify you do use the DDG search engine, just not their browser.

DDG's CEO has a shady background. It's not as privacy centric as they claim to be.

Subsequent comments have pointed to the founder’s background. What’s the evidence that DDG itself is not privacy centric as claimed?

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

nix23 wrote: post #52
paulryanrogers wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can load local extensions from about:debugging. They just won't be permanently installed. (Developer edition may be different.) And Chrome's local loading comes with a disable modal at every startup. So I'm curious what browser you consider worthy. Edit: forgot to mention you can install from 3p sources as I've done from my own site in the past. They just need to be signed by Mozilla first.

>They just need to be signed by Mozilla first No they don't, xpinstall.signatures.required to false

Doesn't work on "normal" Firefox, does it? Only dev builds or the unbranded version without automatic updates.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by techntoke »

josu wrote: post #55
meerita wrote: post #46

See it. These new browsers claiming "privacy" aren't private at all.

It is more private than Chrome. And full privacy probably doesn't exist.

If that is all they got going I don't foresee them lasting much longer. At least Chrome and Firefox have their own open source browsing engines.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by techntoke »

bb123 wrote: post #41
jonathanstrange wrote: post #10

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Why would you make this assumption? It seems perfectly reasonable to me to assume, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that a program actually does what it claims to do.

Because it is a well known fact that it is trivially easy for a resourced attacker to retrieve data from a storage medium well after your computer claims it is deleted.

Not if it is securely wiped multiple times. At that point they'll go looking at your DNS provider and ISP, or local fusion center.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by ilikehurdles »

wmeredith wrote: post #49
bartread wrote: post #43

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Yes: the concept of browsing the web with your privacy preserved has literally zero to do with the concept of bravery. The name is clearly a statement but not one that's ever made any sense to me.

Not sure appropriated is the word you’re looking for.

re-appropriated

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by Grimm665 »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #70
gsich wrote: post #65

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The other browsers don't have "normal" names either.

Chrome and Internet Explorer are both trivially descriptive names.

Internet Explorer maybe, but Chrome? I don't think "Chrome" screams web browser to me. "Safari" seems more trivial than Chrome.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Post by nix23 »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #75
nix23 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They just need to be signed by Mozilla first No they don't, xpinstall.signatures.required to false

Doesn't work on "normal" Firefox, does it? Only dev builds or the unbranded version without automatic updates.

Sorry true, should have mentioned that, just works on dev build's and some version from distributions.
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