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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Why would you make this assumption? It seems perfectly reasonable to me to assume, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that a program actually does what it claims to do.

that seems a little naive. what about actual evidence of performing said wipe? a little progress bar showing the 35× overwrite technique maybe, verified by a failed recovery. do any browsers have these small, open source capabilities baked in? seems like nowadays the only way to ensure and audit personal privacy is by having network inspection and disk utilities constantly monitoring these "pro-privacy" apps

>that seems a little naive. what about actual evidence of performing said wipe? a little progress bar showing the 35× overwrite technique maybe, verified by a failed recovery

Implementing this is problematic because depending on the filesystem, it might not be possible to "wipe" a file by repeatedly writing over it. For instance, if it's a log structured filesystem. On the other hand, you might not even need to overwrite in some cases, eg. filesystems on SSDs with trim support. Also you don't need 35x overwrites. There's no evidence that even 1x overwrite can be recovered on contemporary hard drives.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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I'm already using Windows and despite me ticking all privacy checks - I am, as such, trusting MS with my data. Might as well switch over to Edge when I need a chromium-based browser. Threads like these move me in inch closer to that decision. (currently default: Firefox and secondary: Brave) ps: Edge's reader mode and narrator are top-notch.

Edge synchronization doesn't do end to end encryption for your browsing history or bookmarks (for this reason alone you're actually better off with Chrome). Windows 10 also has a low entropy advertising ID, that via Edge is passed to Bing Ads for ads personalization. Firefox does not send your unencrypted browsing data to Microsoft and it does not send Windows 10's advertising ID to Bing Ads. --- You may trust Micros…

I hadn't heard about the lack of E2E on Edge's sync, thanks for highlighting it here.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Yes: the concept of browsing the web with your privacy preserved has literally zero to do with the concept of bravery. The name is clearly a statement but not one that's ever made any sense to me.

Not sure appropriated is the word you’re looking for.

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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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well, compared to undisclosed affiliate marketing for trading sites[1], soliciting of donations without consent[2] or the recent redirection through affiliate links[3], this seems pretty tame. [1]: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/8793 [2]: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/01/13/brave-web-br... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23442027

I've disliked Brave from the beginning. Initially because of the pretentious - and frankly appropriated - name, but now for the much more substantive reasons you've cited. Seriously, if you want a browser that gives you control over your data and privacy, use Firefox. It doesn't do any of this shady nonsense.

What a nonsensical comment. "I hate brave and what I hate most is that the stole the name"?

Wtf?

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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appropriated name?

Yes: the concept of browsing the web with your privacy preserved has literally zero to do with the concept of bravery. The name is clearly a statement but not one that's ever made any sense to me.

The other browsers don't have "normal" names either.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Firefox prevents me from installing webextensions from sources and even forces me to send the code of my own extensions for my own usage to their webservices in order to use them. This is certainly not a browser that "gives you control over your data", when you're a hacker.

As a hacker, you should start to learn howto use google ;) 'about:config' set 'xpinstall.signatures.required' to 'false'

Yeah, as a hacker,

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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This is a bug, have you guys seen a software bug before? What is it with the appetite for outrage? Using brave on Android devices and not planning to switch

Privacy is Brave's value proposition and this bug hasn't been fixed or meaningfully discussed in like six weeks.

Firefox

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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post #65

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Yes: the concept of browsing the web with your privacy preserved has literally zero to do with the concept of bravery. The name is clearly a statement but not one that's ever made any sense to me.

The other browsers don't have "normal" names either.

Chrome and Internet Explorer are both trivially descriptive names.
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