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FF?
Firefox. You don't need to change many settings to make it much more private than Brave.
What settings would you recommend to change?
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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
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Firefox prevents me from installing webextensions from sources and even forces me to send the code of my own extensions for my own usage to their webservices in order to use them. This is certainly not a browser that "gives you control over your data", when you're a hacker.
You can load local extensions from about:debugging. They just won't be permanently installed. (Developer edition may be different.) And Chrome's local loading comes with a disable modal at every startup. So I'm curious what browser you consider worthy. Edit: forgot to mention you can install from 3p sources as I've done from my own site in the past. They just need to be signed by Mozilla first.
>They just need to be signed by Mozilla first
No they don't, xpinstall.signatures.required to false
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
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Firefox. You don't need to change many settings to make it much more private than Brave.
What settings would you recommend to change?
Partially points of that list:
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/firefox-hardening...
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
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I'm already using Windows and despite me ticking all privacy checks - I am, as such, trusting MS with my data. Might as well switch over to Edge when I need a chromium-based browser. Threads like these move me in inch closer to that decision. (currently default: Firefox and secondary: Brave) ps: Edge's reader mode and narrator are top-notch.
* when I need a chromium-based browser * Try ungoogled-chromium: https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium Put uMatrix, HTTPS everywhere
That either requires you to spend hours building it yourself, or trust random people's builds.
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
#55See it. These new browsers claiming "privacy" aren't private at all.
It is more private than Chrome. And full privacy probably doesn't exist.
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
#56well, compared to undisclosed affiliate marketing for trading sites[1], soliciting of donations without consent[2] or the recent redirection through affiliate links[3], this seems pretty tame. [1]: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/8793 [2]: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/01/13/brave-web-br... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23442027
I'm already using Windows and despite me ticking all privacy checks - I am, as such, trusting MS with my data. Might as well switch over to Edge when I need a chromium-based browser. Threads like these move me in inch closer to that decision. (currently default: Firefox and secondary: Brave) ps: Edge's reader mode and narrator are top-notch.
Edge synchronization doesn't do end to end encryption for your browsing history or bookmarks (for this reason alone you're actually better off with Chrome). Windows 10 also has a low entropy advertising ID, that via Edge is passed to Bing Ads for ads personalization.
Firefox does not send your unencrypted browsing data to Microsoft and it does not send Windows 10's advertising ID to Bing Ads.
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You may trust Microsoft enough to run Windows 10, but it does not follow that Microsoft already has that data. And giving even more data to a company that already has plenty on you is always unwise.
If you care about privacy or security for that matter, compartmentalization is key.
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
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Firefox prevents me from installing webextensions from sources and even forces me to send the code of my own extensions for my own usage to their webservices in order to use them. This is certainly not a browser that "gives you control over your data", when you're a hacker.
You can load local extensions from about:debugging. They just won't be permanently installed. (Developer edition may be different.) And Chrome's local loading comes with a disable modal at every startup. So I'm curious what browser you consider worthy. Edit: forgot to mention you can install from 3p sources as I've done from my own site in the past. They just need to be signed by Mozilla first.
Yes, you can temporarily load extensions in firefox, but I certainly won't reload all my extensions manually at every startup :)
I don't think there's really a good browser for both privacy and hacking. I use chromium when I have no choice (not sure what you're referring to concerning the disable modal ; if it's an issue with chromium too, I haven't hit it, and I have 11 extensions loaded from sources).
But my "main browser until it's not enough" is elinks (slightly modified by me to fix ruby support and offer a few more api methods to extensions). I can write extensions as simple ruby scripts, doing things like adding native markdown support, allowing to edit local files, adding proper indentation to HN comments, etc. It's the perfect browser for me (and with cookies disabled and js, css and images not fetch nor executed, it's a good privacy browser as well). But of course, you won't be able to use that to buy something on the web. Still, it's surprising how much I can accomplish with just that.
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
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Yes: the concept of browsing the web with your privacy preserved has literally zero to do with the concept of bravery. The name is clearly a statement but not one that's ever made any sense to me.
Not sure appropriated is the word you’re looking for.
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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
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Brave is trash, but to say Firefox hasn't done shady things is a bit of joke after the whole incident where they sent full site URLs and interaction data over to Cliqz's servers for a random sampling of users in Germany while being neither opt-in nor clear to the users about what data was being sent.
Short sighted and terrible PR, yes, but to say that what Firefox was doing was shady, specially anything close to as shady as Brave, is being straight out disingenuous.
I was pretty clear about my stance on Brave in the first three words of my comment, but I'm skeptical of any interpretation of user privacy which is so eager to excuse sending user browsing history without asking as not "shady" but simply "short sighted and bad PR" just because Mozilla's the one doing it
Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites
#60If you need an alternative to Brave, then see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23708688 . This comment also shares the auto-suggestions-for-profit which is another reason I'm not using it. Since I cannot use DDG nor Brave, the only alternative (besides the currently bloated Firefox -- in my biased opinion) is ungoogled-chromium.
In what sense is Firefox bloated compared to brave?
Not GP, but excluding benchmarks and profiling data, since I've not done that, Brave feels faster. There are times when Firefox gets slow and I need to restart it, new tabs take more time than they should to open, stuff like that.
My experience is 100% on Linux, and perhaps Firefox on Windows or OS X is quite different.