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Society is going backwards. Entering the dark ages soon.

Meh. "Society" is the mental crutch we all use. We are born and are judged as individuals, achieving greatness or ignobility as we do.

Don't buy into the corporate piffle.

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What a complete waste of time. If you're going to be forced to cram a book that size it would be great if it contained knowledge rooted in science. Think about it: you could start today and within two decades you'd have a generation of actual scholars. Somalia would leap ahead.

I don't consider it a waste of time. In fact, I am reading it right now. And yes, I do plan to start coding when I finish my recitation today :)

Well, good for you. I always wonder what would happen if the Islamic world would go through the equivalent of the enlightenment, I think it would leapfrog the 'west' in a generation or two if it did.

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The gold standard for the Greek text of the New Testament is the critical edition ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novum_Testamentum_Graece ) published by Nestle-Aland.

True, but that raises the question as to what to do with the various footnotes other variant-related snags. It's just not particularly suited for something like an API for verses.

It is, as you say, not particularly suited for something like an API for verses.

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Christianity is also man made.

Only if you believe the entire Bible is false. And that is certainly a choice that anyone has the right to make.

That is disingenuous framing. One does not need to “believe” that the Bible is false, only lack a belief that the Bible is anything other than another book written by humans.

Besides, there are hundreds of religions with their own holy books. Why should I take yours any more seriously than the Bibliotheca or Dianetics?

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#145

Meh. I would really love to see the day when religion stops being more than a fantasy fictional story. The project is nice, but I dislike its promotion of religion, and christianity in particular. This story has caused way too much suffering already. I wonder who will first use this project for children indoctrination.

I think this book should be required reading along side the bible: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17568801-zealot Jesus was an incredible person. The bible taken out of context as it is in corporate christianity, really truly doesn't do Jesus justice. If you love Jesus, read that book - it will only make you love him more. If you are an atheist - read that book, it will give you a historical basis on which you c…

Not to sound too snarky, but I would suggest reading some more respected sources before saying "Reza Aslan" and "historical basis" in the same breath.

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Sure - take a look at the first chapter of Paul's first letter to the Corinthians. The sentence: Jews demand signs and Greeks search for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. is divided into three (!) verses. That sort of thing is pretty common with the periodic st…

Corinthians is not part of the old testament so I'm afraid its versing might not be per the union standards. It is currently versed as: Jews demand signs and Greeks search for wisdom. But we preach Christ crucified - A stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles. But to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. Which seems like three complete sentences forming…

Ah - apologies - I misread you. I'm not sure whether there are any mid-sentence verse breaks in the Old Testament. I'll look!

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tldr; Why not both? I agree that it's odd that we have atomized the writings in the scriptures. You can find reader's editions if you want to remove the verses structure. However, I don't agree that the verses are "diametrically opposed to a Christian reading of the Scriptures". I believe that there is room for both reading whole books and reading short quotes. For instance, I don't think there's anything wrong with…

So, having read the whole of what you wrote, the reason not to do both is that atomization promotes an epistemology that does grave violence to Christian belief. God's self revelation could have been a math textbook: a collection of independent propositions related by logical necessity. But it's not. His self revelation is a person who has a story and who tells stories. When we atomize the scriptures, we're implicitl…

While I would not go as far to say that having verses in scriptures is a tactic of the devil (note that in the wilderness, Jesus also quotes snippets of scripture back to Satan as a rebuttal), I can see your point that it probably does more harm than good.

I do wish that the standard was to not have verses, and have the verses version be the exception rather than the rule. I can see the benefit of having verses, but I think there is far more benefit from reading scripture as a whole instead.

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What a complete waste of time. If you're going to be forced to cram a book that size it would be great if it contained knowledge rooted in science. Think about it: you could start today and within two decades you'd have a generation of actual scholars. Somalia would leap ahead.

I don't consider it a waste of time. In fact, I am reading it right now. And yes, I do plan to start coding when I finish my recitation today :)

You’re reading that particular book because you happen to be born into a particular culture in a particular moment in time. It’s not a truth of the universe, it’s an accident of your circumstances.

Just like every other sacred text.

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I don't consider it a waste of time. In fact, I am reading it right now. And yes, I do plan to start coding when I finish my recitation today :)

Well, good for you. I always wonder what would happen if the Islamic world would go through the equivalent of the enlightenment, I think it would leapfrog the 'west' in a generation or two if it did.

We don't need to abandon our faith to achieve that. In fact, we already had a golden age[1] where we leapfrogged most civilizations.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

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