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The Car, Reinvented

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Re: The Car, Reinvented

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The third point is extremely close to how trucks have always been built. Body-on-frame construction has been prevalent in the automotive industry for a very long time.

Ever see a crazy classic car body dropped on top of a truck frame, i.e. a 4x4 60s mustang on a bronco frame?

Re: The Car, Reinvented

#4
I didn't realize that Apple would be getting into the car rental business, I hadn't been paying attention. The Tesla model seems more palatable, where in theory you are allowed to "hack" your car because you own it.

Re: The Car, Reinvented

#5
> That will require a major overhaul of technologies like the above-mentioned CAN-bus that is four decades old and employed in every car (including, believe it or not, in a Tesla).

I don't understand why the author keeps banging on about CAN bus being an old standard. So what?

CAN bus is used in the automotive industry because of it reliability and low wire count. Why should it be changed?

Re: The Car, Reinvented

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post #5

> That will require a major overhaul of technologies like the above-mentioned CAN-bus that is four decades old and employed in every car (including, believe it or not, in a Tesla). I don't understand why the author keeps banging on about CAN bus being an old standard. So what? CAN bus is used in the automotive industry because of it reliability and low wire count. Why should it be changed?

I always downgrade people in my estimations when I see they correlate old with being bad without a good reason.

Re: The Car, Reinvented

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> That will require a major overhaul of technologies like the above-mentioned CAN-bus that is four decades old and employed in every car (including, believe it or not, in a Tesla). I don't understand why the author keeps banging on about CAN bus being an old standard. So what? CAN bus is used in the automotive industry because of it reliability and low wire count. Why should it be changed?

Also makes it easier for a mechanic to trace and fix issues.

Imagine something more complicated where you need specialized knowledge to troubleshoot things.

It’s like they want to complicate things so the average person can’t fix things themselves. They look at John Deere not in askance but in admiration for making things irreparable by ordinary folks.

Re: The Car, Reinvented

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post #5

> That will require a major overhaul of technologies like the above-mentioned CAN-bus that is four decades old and employed in every car (including, believe it or not, in a Tesla). I don't understand why the author keeps banging on about CAN bus being an old standard. So what? CAN bus is used in the automotive industry because of it reliability and low wire count. Why should it be changed?

CAN is great for real time control, and a huge number of embedded components support it. I don’t see it going away any time soon. That said, it does not have a lot of bandwidth. There will need to be something higher bandwidth to support modern info-tainment systems. A second, high-bandwidth network with less strict real-time requirements.

Re: The Car, Reinvented

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post #5

> That will require a major overhaul of technologies like the above-mentioned CAN-bus that is four decades old and employed in every car (including, believe it or not, in a Tesla). I don't understand why the author keeps banging on about CAN bus being an old standard. So what? CAN bus is used in the automotive industry because of it reliability and low wire count. Why should it be changed?

Yup. I don't get why people love to berate older tech.

I mean, HTTP is quite old.

and CAN is a solid piece of tech. Ultra reliable, fast and low wire count. It's controllers are cheap and reliable.

Re: The Car, Reinvented

#10
Since I'm a programmer I'd make the car-o-future modular. A kernel and different replaceable hardware and software modules. It bugs me how hard it is to customize a car now and the high cost of it.
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