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Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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No, 'international' does not mean 'French'. Yes, the French came up with it but since it now has international adoption it is the international standard with the United States as one of the last hold-outs. That's what you get when you have a country run by lawyers with very limited input from science.

Inches are in fact an international standard to which multiple nations have formally agreed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_yard_and_pound

You'll notice that they are defined in terms of SI units.

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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I guess ... but "God Bless America!" seems like a statement to me.

It’s Independence Day in the US. Patriotism is the theme of the day. This is just a humorous holiday-themed style sheet with a readme to match. It is not a serious style sheet that the author expects anyone to use.

Perhaps this is a cultural difference, but the entire thing just seems strange from my own (European) perspective. Only in the US do people seem to take pride in their measurement system as some sort of patriotic symbol, which is why I originally thought it was a parody shrug

I'm not even going to get started with all the problems I see with "God bless America", which would be long, tedious, probably inflammatory, and fairly off-topic.

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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Wait, what? You're saying that Americans preferentially use base-2 fractions (nearly) everywhere except on computers; on computers you preferentially use base-10, even though said computers are going to store the values as base-2? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.

> "on computers you preferentially use base-10, even though said computers are going to store the values as base-2?" I don't understand this comment at all. Most people are not computer programmers and therefore have no insight into how computers represent numbers. They just populate text fields in Excel, or whatever, with numbers. It's easier to use decimal points to do that than fractions. When I'm not using comput…

You find it more difficult to choose between 1mm, 2mm, 3mm, 3.5mm, 4mm, 4.5mm, 5mm, 6mm, 7mm, 8mm drill bits than 1/16 5/64 3/32 7/64 1/8 9/64 5/32 1/4 7/32 3/16 inches?

What's 3/16" in 64ths, while under your car?

(Imperial numbers copied from a website selling a set, metric from my memory of my 10-bit set. I doubt these sets are similar.)

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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post #180

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Inches are in fact an international standard to which multiple nations have formally agreed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_yard_and_pound

You'll notice that they are defined in terms of SI units.

I do notice

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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Replace "convenience" with "low cost of equipping the kitchen" then.

A set of measuring cups and a digital kitchen scale probably cost about the same. Just checked this with a quick search on Amazon -- most results are in the $15-20 range, with some available for $10 or less. (I dare say there are probably very cheap measuring cups available, and for a scale you’ll have to fork out occasionally for batteries, if you want to split hairs.)

Mechanical scales were normal in the UK for most of the 20th century. Everyone I knew had one in the 1990s, from around 2000 people started buying digital scales, and I took my mum's mechanical scale when I left for university.

Measuring ingredients by weight has a long history on Britain. The old, Victorian cookbooks use weights.

https://archive.org/details/b20392758/page/698/mode/2up

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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Metric inches or survey inches? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_(unit)#International_foot )

Huh, I didn't know about this, that feet and inches used to differ across the world. If only they'd done pints, fluid ounces, and cups, etc. too! (Cups are particularly annoying: there's British, US, US Legal, and metric. The best recipe-following advice is that it's never going to matter. But it's annoying.)

the whole imperial system is off and doesn't make sense.

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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Uhhh why France?

Within the EU France is quite nationalist compared to others, and yet, I fail to imagine someone there producing something like this. I'm a bit allergic to flag waving.

Ah, I interpreted it as a comment on the difficulty of creating the national flags in pure CSS.

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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Within the EU France is quite nationalist compared to others, and yet, I fail to imagine someone there producing something like this. I'm a bit allergic to flag waving.

Ah, I interpreted it as a comment on the difficulty of creating the national flags in pure CSS.

The French one, in that case would seem trivial in comparison.

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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Engineering and machining specifications are usually in 0.001” and referred to as thousandth’s or “thou’s”. Tools like wrenches or drill bits use fractions in the form x+1/2^n like 2 1/2 == 2.5”. It goes down to 1/64, I think.

It's a really well-sized unit for that kind of work. I know exactly what a thou is and how to keep things in spec, but I'm lost using mm.

Thous, and tenths even more so, are more akin to microns in metric.

Re: Show HN: USA.css – units set in inches, 1776 bytes

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> "on computers you preferentially use base-10, even though said computers are going to store the values as base-2?" I don't understand this comment at all. Most people are not computer programmers and therefore have no insight into how computers represent numbers. They just populate text fields in Excel, or whatever, with numbers. It's easier to use decimal points to do that than fractions. When I'm not using comput…

You find it more difficult to choose between 1mm, 2mm, 3mm, 3.5mm, 4mm, 4.5mm, 5mm, 6mm, 7mm, 8mm drill bits than 1/16 5/64 3/32 7/64 1/8 9/64 5/32 1/4 7/32 3/16 inches? What's 3/16" in 64ths, while under your car? (Imperial numbers copied from a website selling a set, metric from my memory of my 10-bit set. I doubt these sets are similar.)

> What's 3/16" in 64ths, while under your car?

12. You just double it, twice.

I'm British, and generally partial to metric units, but power-of-two fractions actually seem quite nice to me.

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