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Trump May Attempt to Force Long-Time H-1B Visa Holders Out of U.S.

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Post by rayiner »

cachestash wrote: post #5
Barrin92 wrote: post #3

It's quite astonishing to see the US actively reject the people and the talent that other countries would be taking with open arms. Indian and Chinese immigrants in particular in tech constitute a large part of the workforce and the former increasingly in leadership too. With the rapidly developing national sectors in India and China and the increasing racism and deteriorating condition this could very well the point…

Trump has no use for smart or brown skinned people, neither group would ever vote for him.

Asians voted Hilary 65-27: http://2016.elections.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-pol.... Latinos were 66-28. Lots of brown skinned people voted for Trump.

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Post by dehrmann »

padiyar83 wrote: post #10
bediger4000 wrote: post #8

Gosh, will major tech companies allow this to happen without an impossible-to-resist lobbying effort? This would make US citizens who are developers and SREs and system admins almost impossibly valuable, wouldn't it?

This will also incentivize firms to consider running teams from countries like Ireland, Canada (less restricted on immigration) and India (labor rich). It's also a shot in the arm for remote "work from anywhere". Higher the wage in US, greater the incentive for a firm to do these things.

It's hard to say how long Silicon Valley can be an economic diver without immigrant talent, especially if that talent concentrates elsewhere.

A lot of that talent originally came to the US for an education, and those numbers leveled off when Trump was elected. Most of the foreign student growth was also from China, which I'd expect to see drip in the next decade regardless of who wins in November.

https://www.educationnext.org/files/ednext_XIX_4_usher_fig01...

Because of the education angle, I doubt Ireland will be a winner, but the UK might be, Canada, and Australia look promising.

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Post by pnako »

cachestash wrote: post #5
Barrin92 wrote: post #3

It's quite astonishing to see the US actively reject the people and the talent that other countries would be taking with open arms. Indian and Chinese immigrants in particular in tech constitute a large part of the workforce and the former increasingly in leadership too. With the rapidly developing national sectors in India and China and the increasing racism and deteriorating condition this could very well the point…

Trump has no use for smart or brown skinned people, neither group would ever vote for him.

What do you mean exactly by "brown" people? Who do you include in that category?

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Post by _8j50 »

Most of my team will be affected by this. We are considering changing location of our offices among other options. So, even though I and a few others are americans,Trump's insanity on this will affect us directly.

It's not like there are American workers lined up to do the job h1b workers do. America will lose the demand for skilled labor permanently with this along with a largr chunk of what little supporting skilled workforce exists.

I will be honest with you, I like living in america with all it's problems.

Do you guys suggest a better country for relocation? Canada is all I can think of but it's so cold!

I fully support giving h1b holders a green card once trump is gone.

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Post by specialist »

rayiner wrote: post #4

Folks need to understand the context in which all this is happening. This isn’t just about what policies we should have for high-skill immigration. It’s the product of decades of administrations ignoring the immigration laws that we have. In other countries, the legislature votes on immigration policies and those policies are implemented. Canada decides to have high-skill immigration through a point-based process and…

What reforms do you advocate? Is there model legislation?

I've worked and lived along side immigrants my entire life. From what little I know, it's just nutty. (My childhood church helped refugees get resettled and established. Working in tech, a huge fraction of my coworkers were born elsewhere.)

While I'm very pro immigration, maybe even open borders, I understand it'd have to be thought out. But I have no idea what a better system would look like, what to fight for.

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Post by indemnity »

specialist wrote: post #15
rayiner wrote: post #4

Folks need to understand the context in which all this is happening. This isn’t just about what policies we should have for high-skill immigration. It’s the product of decades of administrations ignoring the immigration laws that we have. In other countries, the legislature votes on immigration policies and those policies are implemented. Canada decides to have high-skill immigration through a point-based process and…

What reforms do you advocate? Is there model legislation? I've worked and lived along side immigrants my entire life. From what little I know, it's just nutty. (My childhood church helped refugees get resettled and established. Working in tech, a huge fraction of my coworkers were born elsewhere.) While I'm very pro immigration, maybe even open borders, I understand it'd have to be thought out. But I have no idea wha…

You have examples in most of the other Anglo countries already, you just have to be willing to learn from other countries (a long shot, I know).

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Post by rayiner »

specialist wrote: post #15
rayiner wrote: post #4

Folks need to understand the context in which all this is happening. This isn’t just about what policies we should have for high-skill immigration. It’s the product of decades of administrations ignoring the immigration laws that we have. In other countries, the legislature votes on immigration policies and those policies are implemented. Canada decides to have high-skill immigration through a point-based process and…

What reforms do you advocate? Is there model legislation? I've worked and lived along side immigrants my entire life. From what little I know, it's just nutty. (My childhood church helped refugees get resettled and established. Working in tech, a huge fraction of my coworkers were born elsewhere.) While I'm very pro immigration, maybe even open borders, I understand it'd have to be thought out. But I have no idea wha…

I’d support Canada’s point-based system. But really, we just need to something. Right now, we don’t have any system for skilled immigration.

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Post by 0xdeadb00f »

pnako wrote: post #13
cachestash wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump has no use for smart or brown skinned people, neither group would ever vote for him.

What do you mean exactly by "brown" people? Who do you include in that category?

Anyone who is non-white, I assume.
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