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Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

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Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#41
Good. I'm tired of phone zombies walking literally INTO me. There at least needs to be some clearly defined etiquette.

"keep right" only works in right-hand drive countries, nor is it consistently applied (shopping center escalators, etc.) except for Germany, lol

Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#42
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still remember getting my phone swiped on the sidewalk across from my favorite restaurant on Chapel Market. (There are many words I've adopted since moving here. "Pavement" is not one of them.")

Anecdotally, for some reason, random swiping and lifting of electronics, laptops, etc. seems more prevalent in Europe than in the US. Whenever I've heard of a colleague's laptop of whatever being lifted at dinner, it's always Barcelona, Amsterdam, Brussels, etc. rather than San Francisco or New York City. I'm sure it happens in those places too but it seems less common.

Anecdotally speaking, that's because those are tourist trap cities. the person IS a tourist, is in the most touristic neighborhood possible, often in the center, and is behaving like a total tourist.

It's not a European thing, it's an "I'M OBVIOUS" thing.

I see your anecdote and raise you a "European Tourist gets off streetcar at 6th and Market St. in SF, because it's allegedly the city center and thus must be a great tourist location"...

*I'm originally American and I've lived all over Europe for over 15 years.

Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#43
I finally figured out what bugs me so much about people walking while looking at their phone. Without phones, when people approach each other in a hallway or on the street, there's a lot of nonvocal communication happening. You don't even have to make eye contact to decide how everyone is going to maneuver around each other. Everyone is generally looking at a point far ahead and walking in a straight line towards it.

Now enter smartphones. This entire communication is simply gone. People on phones only see about a couple meters in front of them. They constantly shift the direction they are walking. It's impossible to predict where they will go. If you're walking towards them, this creates a small spike of anxiety in your lizard brain because it's trying to communicate with them and the lines are down.

Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#44
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, for some reason, random swiping and lifting of electronics, laptops, etc. seems more prevalent in Europe than in the US. Whenever I've heard of a colleague's laptop of whatever being lifted at dinner, it's always Barcelona, Amsterdam, Brussels, etc. rather than San Francisco or New York City. I'm sure it happens in those places too but it seems less common.

Anecdotally speaking, that's because those are tourist trap cities. the person IS a tourist, is in the most touristic neighborhood possible, often in the center, and is behaving like a total tourist. It's not a European thing, it's an "I'M OBVIOUS" thing. I see your anecdote and raise you a "European Tourist gets off streetcar at 6th and Market St. in SF, because it's allegedly the city center and thus must be a grea…

Heh. SF has a lot of problems these days--to the point where I'm quite a bit less enthusiastic about visiting it than I used to be. However, I suspect a lot of the "What a s*hole" reaction and general negativity you get from a lot of business travelers in particular is that they're mostly working and staying in the immediate vicinity of the Moscone which is basically the armpit of the city. (Which one might reasonably not expect to be the case especially with the Civic Center and main shopping area there too.)

Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#46

My dream is that one day, everyone will see the imaginary lines down the sidewalk that I do. Keep to the right, just like you're driving, and even someone texting while walking won't run into. Sadly, these lines are imaginary and while people tend to keep right, don't take it very seriously. A deeper issue is how much of the space between buildings is dedicated to private vehicles. When the sidewalk is 6 feet wide an…

I believe in Japan, people walk on the left side.

Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#47

In general I find people using their phones whilst walking to be a nuisance, but I'm still not particularly in favour of this. There are at least two legitimate use cases that don't cause too many problems: 1. Using your phone as an actual phone (i.e., an audio only conversation with the thing held to your ear, or with a headset). 2. Using it as a navigational aid. If I'm not too sure where I'm going I'll often use e…

CarPlay ==> walkPlay

Re: Yamato becomes Japan's first city to 'ban' use of phones while walking

#48
I find the best thing to do when someone's walking towards you, texting, totally oblivious to your coming towards them, is to play chicken with them. Just keep walking, see how close you can get to them before they notice you. It gets pretty close sometimes, almost had a couple collisions, but so far everyone's looked up in the knick of time, gotten embarrassed and quickly veered away. Gets that adrenaline flowing though.
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