This sounds like a solution to a non-existent problem.
That’s it, we’re quitting
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, on my Android phone I'm constantly using a third party task killer to stop services and apps running in the background that I thought I 'quit' by backing out of them. I also use the quit option on apps that have it. I don't entirely trust Android to manage battery life as efficiently as possible yet, especially when iPhone still does it so much better, and when every time I check the services running on the…
Your task killer might be hurting your battery life rather than helping it. In any case, in recent versions (2.1+ I think), Android is better at managing tasks than a third-party app, and overzealous background task killing doesn't help anything. http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-wi...
Thanks for that article, very informative, but not necessarily conclusive. There are also a ton of comments that resonate with my concerns, about how random apps I haven't touched seem to constantly start themselves and run in the background doing who knows what - using CPU (battery), bandwidth, whatever.
At least one comment mentioned a significant battery life improvement after installing Advanced Task Killer and turning on its autokill feature, which I've been using a few months. I think I'll experiment a little and turn it off, and see if there's any noticeable difference in battery life.
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#63I hope Canonical picks up GnuStep some day.
I remember the first days of GNOME, a Windows-clone in looks, with an ambitious acronym "GNU Network Object Model Environment". Are they anywhere near that acronym in vision today?
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Not only can I not find files when Finder doesn't use folders (...) Huh? Do you mean things like iPhoto that bundle photos?
I really don't understand how current finder works, having used it a dozen times. Whatever it does, doesn't seem to involve separate folders. Seems Prima facie evidence of lack of usability since I have been able to reasonably easily understand Windows, Linux and the older Macintosh finder-thing. And yes, iPhotos seem to be a problem. I watched a friend spend three hours trying to find some photos they'd previous loa…
A right click in most programs on a "file" will reveal an option that is along the lines of reveal "filename" in finder. iPhoto does this.
I don't know if I understand what finder is doing different than say windows explorer or konqueror in linux. when you click on finder it opens a new file browser that has the typical list and icon view as well as some quicklook view that I don't like much and a nested list view where each column is a different folder. It seems pretty similar to windows in my opinion. (not that it's all peaches, I would really like to have a file cut and paste option instead of only copy but I digress)
edit: Looking at your higher up comment I guess you are talking about the isuite of programs that aggregate all your files and handle them internally? even that is a folder on your hard drive(~/usrname/Pictures/iPhoto Library is still a folder just right click on it to select show package contents and you can get to all your files or just open iPhoto and right click on a picture you want to locate and select reveal in finder) though and it's less of a function of finder and more of a function of the iphoto itunes etc.
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#65I'm significantly confused. The article seems to be talking about the distinction that OS X has between closing a window and quitting an application, and talking about how this behavior exists on Windows and Ubuntu as well. I must be missing something somewhere.
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#66Awesome. Next, get rid of "Save", which is an even bigger problem.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ “Say good-bye to manual saving. Auto Save in Mac OS X Lion automatically saves your work — while you work — so you don’t have to. Lion saves changes in the working document instead of creating additional copies, making the best use of available disk space. The lock feature prevents inadvertent changes from being saved and automatically locks documents after two weeks. And the revert…
The remarkable thing is that for thirty years we've been using tools that default to destroying your work. I can't think of a better example of our collective tolerance for janky technology than the persistence of such a glaring regression from the typewriters (etc) that personal computers replaced.
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#67I was really hoping this was exactly what the headline made it sound like.
It is interesting to see the history of the quit/close pair in programs though.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really don't understand how current finder works, having used it a dozen times. Whatever it does, doesn't seem to involve separate folders. Seems Prima facie evidence of lack of usability since I have been able to reasonably easily understand Windows, Linux and the older Macintosh finder-thing. And yes, iPhotos seem to be a problem. I watched a friend spend three hours trying to find some photos they'd previous loa…
A right click in most programs on a "file" will reveal an option that is along the lines of reveal "filename" in finder. iPhoto does this. I don't know if I understand what finder is doing different than say windows explorer or konqueror in linux. when you click on finder it opens a new file browser that has the typical list and icon view as well as some quicklook view that I don't like much and a nested list view wh…
Are you sure iPhoto still has a 'reveal in finder' option? I"m not seeing it... Though I don't know why you'd need it with iPhoto since you can just DnD photos out to the desktop (or wherever) if you want to work on them.
Re: That’s it, we’re quitting
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, on my Android phone I'm constantly using a third party task killer to stop services and apps running in the background that I thought I 'quit' by backing out of them. I also use the quit option on apps that have it. I don't entirely trust Android to manage battery life as efficiently as possible yet, especially when iPhone still does it so much better, and when every time I check the services running on the…
Your task killer might be hurting your battery life rather than helping it. In any case, in recent versions (2.1+ I think), Android is better at managing tasks than a third-party app, and overzealous background task killing doesn't help anything. http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-wi...
I heard this as well so when I got my android I didn't install one. But the battery life was horrible. Often, if I used the phone regularly during the day the battery would be dead by 9-10pm. I installed a task killer and killed everything when it booted up and killed a couple times a day. After that I suddenly have ~1.5 days worth of battery available. I'm not sure which app was being such a hog (I suspect it's an app that was refusing to let the phone go into sleep mode) but the task killer was most definitely necessary.
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#70As an Ubuntu user, these articles scare the hell out of me. The quit or exit command is not confusing at all. And if you want to get rid of it, you'd better make sure that none of your programs have any memory leaks ever (good luck with that).
You know what is much more confusing than the quit command? Having to go into the CLI or the task manager and kill stuff manually because it is eating half of your memory and processor time doing nothing. Or having to restart your PC every day because it just gets slow after a while.
Here is the most important thing about GUI design - you should confirm people's expectations. People expect to be able to quit stuff.
It is extremely annoying that this starry eyed experimentation is going on in the most popular Linux distro. They are basically risking the one foothold Linux has been able to make in the desktop world. If you want to experiment, you should start an experimental distro and not risk your's and Linux's one single solid success.