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Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by SquishyPanda23 »

esperent wrote: post #34
bloopernova wrote: post #2

I'm really happy that the "knowledge base management" type of tools are getting a lot more attention these days. In my opinion, the more brains that look at this area, the better the whole ecosystem will get. I'll have to download this and give it a try, and compare it to my current workflow. (I use org-roam on Emacs. I'm not sure if people are sick of org-mode and Emacs being mentioned on HN? I worry about becoming…

I do think that the area of knowledge management is very interesting and worthy of discussion. When it comes to tooling though, I've tried out a couple and I don't find anything superior to a folder full of markdown files + your favorite text editor (I use VSCode, but I don't think that's especially important). Systems like Zettelkasten are interesting to read about, but again, everyone's brain is different and for m…

One thing this ecosystem is missing is a measure of how effective people are after switching from one tool or another.

E.g. our company implemented the use of Zettelkasten in a randomized trial and engineering efficiency improved by x% in the experimental group compared with y% in the control group.

It seems like much of the ecosystem is like some areas of the Linux ecosystem, where the goal is more to focus on getting the tools and process just so than on the impact the tooling has on actual productivity.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by DerWOK »

scribu wrote: post #11

The drawback to working directly on Markdown files is that it's hard to synchronize your notes from/to mobile. If I didn't care about sync, I would use org-roam or some Vim plugin, personally.

For syncing I'm using a private github repo, then syncing is easy and on iOS / Android I use GitJournal or WorkingCopy (iOS only IMHO).

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by kiba »

esperent wrote: post #34
bloopernova wrote: post #2

I'm really happy that the "knowledge base management" type of tools are getting a lot more attention these days. In my opinion, the more brains that look at this area, the better the whole ecosystem will get. I'll have to download this and give it a try, and compare it to my current workflow. (I use org-roam on Emacs. I'm not sure if people are sick of org-mode and Emacs being mentioned on HN? I worry about becoming…

I do think that the area of knowledge management is very interesting and worthy of discussion. When it comes to tooling though, I've tried out a couple and I don't find anything superior to a folder full of markdown files + your favorite text editor (I use VSCode, but I don't think that's especially important). Systems like Zettelkasten are interesting to read about, but again, everyone's brain is different and for m…

Systems like Zettelkasten are interesting to read about, but again, everyone's brain is different and for me a bunch of folder categories and one misc/daily folder is just as good.

I find that folders/tags inevitably just run into the issue of notes not fitting into any particular schema. So often time I just use the search function, or use a particular note that consist mostly of only organized links. This way I can have multiple schema of organization even if they overlap. Or rather, overlap is a good thing. It means you have multiple ways to find a given subject.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by black_puppydog »

I can't believe nobody bothered to link TiddlyWiki [1] here... Especially since this crowd here should be able to run it directly from npm, which makes it much easier (conceptually, for me) than "a self-modifying html file". :P

For Zettelkasten (and research more generally) Stroll [2] is a flavour of TiddlyWiki that has many of the features you'd like, including (most crucially for me) backlinks.

Edit: the reason I brought up TiddlyWiki here is because I tried Zettlr and while I see how some people would like it, I certainly didn't.

[1]: https://tiddlywiki.com/

[2]: https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

Joplin and Standard notes are great as well. I lost one week of data due to some synchronization issue with Joplin though - but the markdown editor is great (they even have a new WYSIWYG editor). Standard notes is good but it's missing good file/image support which is really annoying.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by sradman »

wenc wrote: post #13

Folks who are familiar with Zettelkasten: Would it be correct to say that most of these tools are identical to Wiki software with one exception: the ability to see "what linked to this"?

> Would it be correct to say that most of these tools are identical to Wiki software...

It would be correct to say that a personal Wiki is a modern way to implement a Zettelkasten system [1]. Zettelkasten (Slip-Box is the literal translation from the German) is a paper-and-pen system where personal notes are written on index cards and stored in a box (like the library card catalogs of yesteryear). The trick to building the knowledge graph is giving each card a unique identifier and having a convention for referencing other cards.

Apple Notes and other similar products are simply missing the ability make links to other notes.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by rvz »

> macOS: "Your system has run out of application memory"

I just looked at the apps I currently have open and it appears that I have the following running: VSCode, Docker, Slack, Notion, WhatsApp, Discord, Riot, Chrome (70+ Tabs), Skype, and Figma.

I wondered if my Macbook could tolerate another electron app being installed or if I can open another one without grinding my Macbook to a halt. But again I don't think such apps can even scale with other apps running in the background.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Post by jpxw »

SquishyPanda23 wrote: post #51
esperent wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think that the area of knowledge management is very interesting and worthy of discussion. When it comes to tooling though, I've tried out a couple and I don't find anything superior to a folder full of markdown files + your favorite text editor (I use VSCode, but I don't think that's especially important). Systems like Zettelkasten are interesting to read about, but again, everyone's brain is different and for m…

One thing this ecosystem is missing is a measure of how effective people are after switching from one tool or another. E.g. our company implemented the use of Zettelkasten in a randomized trial and engineering efficiency improved by x% in the experimental group compared with y% in the control group. It seems like much of the ecosystem is like some areas of the Linux ecosystem, where the goal is more to focus on getti…

How do you quantify “efficiency“?
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