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Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by Mary-Jane »

crazygringo wrote: post #159

I've used plenty of software before that offers to do something based on clipboard contents, often when there isn't even anywhere to paste. E.g. a phone dialer app that asks if you want to dial the number in the clipboard when you start it, an image editor that asks if I want to create a new image size the dimensions of the clipboard, a torrenting program that when I choose to import a torrent automatically grabs it…

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

This.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by NalNezumi »

ironman1478 wrote: post #225
DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #119

LinkedIn has a history of acting like a cretin: multiple data breaches, dark patterns where they don't fix their buggy mobile site and just put up a disclaimer "problems with the mobile site - download our app" (just so that they can harvest a wider range of data). I managed many marketing campaigns on Linkedin over the years and spent thousands each month on the platform as a corporate user. If you think that paying…

I've actually gotten my current job and just received an offer from a FAANG due to LinkedIn cold calls. I can't speak to dark patterns, but saying the service has no value is disingenuous.

Have to agree to this as well, and add another point of view. I moved country about 1 year ago. Although I speak the language of the destination country I had trouble finding "where to look" for dev(robotics) jobs.

My first job was through recruiter page but my current job I got through a recruiter contacting me on LinkedIn. He even bumped my salary up by 15% from initial offer (because his cut was based on the salary and I also had another offer on the table).

It is a pretty valuable tool for a person moving countries for sure. Although I'm in Asia atm, I even got connected to a startup in SV while I were looking for jobs.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by leephillips »

inetknght wrote: post #269
leephillips wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course there are APIs for accessing the clipboard. I probably use Vim’s clipboard registers 300 times a day. None of this has anything to do with closed source programs reading the clipboard without permission. Speculating that somehow an app might “override your permission setting” is not really informative. There might be any number of exploits.

> None of this has anything to do with closed source programs reading the clipboard without permission. This has everything to do with closed source programs reading the clipboard without permission since there are no permissions involved in desktop operating systems.

Oh, OK. But all of your examples are open source programs. And there is a reason I only run open source programs on the desktop (except maybe for a driver or two, I guess, possibly). I'm not afraid that Vim is scraping my clipboard and selling the contents to an advertising firm. Because it’s not.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by brtkdotse »

flir wrote: post #264
cookiengineer wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We were trying to recruit via LinkedIn for our startup but soon realized what a shitty business model LinkedIn has. We had to pay around ~5,00EUR for each and every click on "Apply" to our job posting, which doesn't mean they even filled out the form. And now, where LinkedIn is full of Indian scammers (not meant in a racist way, but it is definitely perceived that way) we had costs for a "Local Area" limited job post…

> Srsly, somebody needs to fix this I've lost count of the number of devs I've spoken to, over multiple decades, who are convinced recruitment is ripe for disruption. I'm sure everyone else has the same experience. And yet, recruitment's still here, more or less unchanged. At this point I'm pretty sure recruitment has always been terrible, and will always be terrible. There's some perverse incentive buried deep in th…

> And yet, recruitment's still here, more or less unchanged. At this point I'm pretty sure recruitment has always been terrible, and will always be terrible. There's some perverse incentive buried deep in the process that can't be shaken out. Or something.

It probably won’t be solved by tech folk as it’s a squishy people problem that’s hard to quantify (case in point: threads on HN bemoaning robotic HR processes att FAANG)

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by nitrogen »

filleduchaos wrote: post #233
nitrogen wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't have to be though. Especially on a platform that only has one UI toolkit, controlled by the vendor.

Ah, so _now_ we're asking Apple to disallow any UI development whatsoever outside of using the components in the UIKit and AppKit SDKs (and screw you if you want to develop any sort of interface that's not supported or intended to be supported out of the box by the above)? Very interesting indeed. I understand the outrage over programs abusing the resources they have access to, but frankly this is just approaching hy…

You seem pretty moved by this discussion. What is your use case that is broken by protecting the clipboard and filesystem?

using the components in the UIKit and AppKit SDKs

Yes, if you want to provide a native feel, with native features like clipboards, and native accessibility features, use the native widgets. They usually tend to be stylable any way you want (my UI experience is with HTML, Qt, Swing, Win32, Winforms, and Gtk; I'd be very surprised if Android and iOS don't support widget styling). Just like on the web, it's a big problem when people reimplement a text input box from scratch.

operating systems should not support programmatic access to the filesystem.

This is the direction desktops are going, and it's where Android and iOS started. I shouldn't have to give a chat app access to all of my photos, videos, music, and documents just to let it download messages. And to upload a photo, both Android and iOS provide system file pickers. Desktop/laptop OS sandboxes should also provide file pickers to give an app access to one file or one directory.

An app doesn't need to access my clipboard until I'm trying to paste something in that app, or I know that it does something useful (and nothing nefarious) with clipboard snooping. It looks like iOS has provided clipboard notification events for different media types so that apps can show a Paste button without having to read the actual contents until the user is ready.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by brtkdotse »

cookiengineer wrote: post #263
DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #119

LinkedIn has a history of acting like a cretin: multiple data breaches, dark patterns where they don't fix their buggy mobile site and just put up a disclaimer "problems with the mobile site - download our app" (just so that they can harvest a wider range of data). I managed many marketing campaigns on Linkedin over the years and spent thousands each month on the platform as a corporate user. If you think that paying…

We were trying to recruit via LinkedIn for our startup but soon realized what a shitty business model LinkedIn has. We had to pay around ~5,00EUR for each and every click on "Apply" to our job posting, which doesn't mean they even filled out the form. And now, where LinkedIn is full of Indian scammers (not meant in a racist way, but it is definitely perceived that way) we had costs for a "Local Area" limited job post…

Same experience here. Wanted to expand my business and posted a LinkedIn job ad. After a week I had spent 200€ and received a bunch of people outside of Stockholm, which I specified as the location. I also received a few job applications from school teachers, car salesmen and county clerks - for a senior dev position.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by nicbou »

JGM_io wrote: post #267
Moto7451 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a fan of giving phone numbers out either. When I have to I give one to sites I hold suspect I use a number from the safe fictitious range allowed for use on TV and in movies. It’s like example.org but for phone numbers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/555_(telephone_number)

Very cool trick! Wonder if Europe has this as well. For email I use JGM.io (my own domain). If I see that address being used elsewhere I know who's being a bad boy

Gmail let's you add tags to your email like firstnamelastname+linkedin@gmail.com. This is really useful for such purposes.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by StreamBright »

cookiengineer wrote: post #263
DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #119

LinkedIn has a history of acting like a cretin: multiple data breaches, dark patterns where they don't fix their buggy mobile site and just put up a disclaimer "problems with the mobile site - download our app" (just so that they can harvest a wider range of data). I managed many marketing campaigns on Linkedin over the years and spent thousands each month on the platform as a corporate user. If you think that paying…

We were trying to recruit via LinkedIn for our startup but soon realized what a shitty business model LinkedIn has. We had to pay around ~5,00EUR for each and every click on "Apply" to our job posting, which doesn't mean they even filled out the form. And now, where LinkedIn is full of Indian scammers (not meant in a racist way, but it is definitely perceived that way) we had costs for a "Local Area" limited job post…

Sounds like a great opportunity to build a website for job seekers and companies with a more rational business model.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by kreetx »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #176
foxfired wrote: post #167

One little weird trick I found is to use the browser for websites. All the limitations I found on web pages that asks me to download the app are artificial. What is reddit doing that requires an app? What is facebook doing that requires an app? There is even less reasons now to use the YouTube app.

can't use reddit enhancement suite on mobile browser. however linkedin, amazon, twitter, etc all work well enough on mobile browser.

Can't speak for others, but LinkedIn's web is annoyingly slow on mobile.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Post by sleavey »

flir wrote: post #264
cookiengineer wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We were trying to recruit via LinkedIn for our startup but soon realized what a shitty business model LinkedIn has. We had to pay around ~5,00EUR for each and every click on "Apply" to our job posting, which doesn't mean they even filled out the form. And now, where LinkedIn is full of Indian scammers (not meant in a racist way, but it is definitely perceived that way) we had costs for a "Local Area" limited job post…

> Srsly, somebody needs to fix this I've lost count of the number of devs I've spoken to, over multiple decades, who are convinced recruitment is ripe for disruption. I'm sure everyone else has the same experience. And yet, recruitment's still here, more or less unchanged. At this point I'm pretty sure recruitment has always been terrible, and will always be terrible. There's some perverse incentive buried deep in th…

Same problems with the private home rental market. If someone can figure out how to match good tenants with good landlords in a way that is hard to scam and respects privacy, they would make a lot of money.
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