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Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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LinkedIn has a history of acting like a cretin: multiple data breaches, dark patterns where they don't fix their buggy mobile site and just put up a disclaimer "problems with the mobile site - download our app" (just so that they can harvest a wider range of data). I managed many marketing campaigns on Linkedin over the years and spent thousands each month on the platform as a corporate user. If you think that paying…

Not LinkedIn; Microsoft.

We should blame the real owner. Maybe they'll pay more attention if these practices become tied to their overall brand.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Ugh, I won't use their phone app, they're way too slimy to live there. They conveniently forget your mail settings periodically, too, forcing you to opt-out of various garbage again, or to just trash all the mail. They're at least as scummy as FB, if not worse. My (related) new rule: if your site demands a phone number for an account, I will not create an account on your site.

I’m not a fan of giving phone numbers out either. When I have to I give one to sites I hold suspect I use a number from the safe fictitious range allowed for use on TV and in movies. It’s like example.org but for phone numbers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/555_(telephone_number)

Truly disposable burner emails are the best, though many larger corps block the more popular ones or require an email at specific providers. https://www.mailinator.com/

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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LinkedIn has a history of acting like a cretin: multiple data breaches, dark patterns where they don't fix their buggy mobile site and just put up a disclaimer "problems with the mobile site - download our app" (just so that they can harvest a wider range of data). I managed many marketing campaigns on Linkedin over the years and spent thousands each month on the platform as a corporate user. If you think that paying…

Not LinkedIn; Microsoft. We should blame the real owner. Maybe they'll pay more attention if these practices become tied to their overall brand.

The acquisition was 4 years ago, almost to the day: you're right, it's time to blame the real owner.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Agreed, but that still doesn't mean that and app should ever have the query the contents of the clipboard. The OS could send a message to the app with the contents of the clipboard when the user presses CTRL-V.

How, precisely, do you propose this would work with raw keyboard modes? Or graphical context menus? The discussion around this is so strange and weirdly nontechnical to me.

This is far from my area of expertise, so let me know if I'm incorrect anywhere. Here is how I imagine thing are:

Currently: application queries clipboard state and gets back some structured data. (quick googling confirmed this).

Proposed: application gets a message when CTRL-V is clicked along with the same data that currently gets returned when clipboard is queried.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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LinkedIn has a history of acting like a cretin: multiple data breaches, dark patterns where they don't fix their buggy mobile site and just put up a disclaimer "problems with the mobile site - download our app" (just so that they can harvest a wider range of data). I managed many marketing campaigns on Linkedin over the years and spent thousands each month on the platform as a corporate user. If you think that paying…

I've recently found that they're really pushing people toward the paid tier. I connected with someone a few weeks ago, and when I look at his contacts, I can only see people who are contacts to him AND other contacts of mine. Why won't LinkedIn let me see contacts that are 2nd-degree contacts via only him? I have no idea. But this mentor specifically asked me to go through his contacts and look for people I'd like to…

You'd think that the paid tier would at least make the platform respect you and not waste your time. But no, LinkedIn will still waste your time with ads and dark patterns all over the place regardless of whether you pay or not.

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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Think it's just the app? Hope you don't have your clipboard events enabled in your browser Edit for those interested: tl;dr: "asynchronous clipboard API" [0] Overtly, it's used by shit news sites like WSJ, nytimes, and bloomberg to inject their shit into your clipboard when you copy-paste. A common thing I've noticed is selecting text, copying the text, and then pasting somewhere and seeing a link to the original art…

Thanks for the details. I agree that it’s obnoxious for sites to interfere with copy. But they still can’t read from the clipboard, which is the topic here. And your [8] seems to be about the user deciding to paste unsafe content — totally different issue, isn’t it?

> they still can’t read from the clipboard

Incorrect; the API is here [0].

[0]: https://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/#dom-clipboard-read

It is at least supposed to be hidden behind a permission. What's the default for that permission though? I sure hope Google^H^H^H^H^H^HMicrosoft^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsome evildoer doesn't find a way to override your permission setting. A reset of configuration data after an automatic update might do the trick...

> And your [8] seems to be about the user deciding to paste unsafe content — totally different issue, isn’t it?

Perhaps you are right. I won't claim to fully understand how tty programs work. However:

* `emacs` documentation describes an ability to interact with the user's system clipboard [1].

* `tmux` integrates with the user's system clipboard [2].

* `mosh` apparently caches the user's system clipboard [3].

* `vim` has special registers to represent the user's system clipboard [4] [5].

If the system is using dbus (nearly every Linux based OS), it's pretty easy to do. Here's a python script using GTK to do so [6]. A high level overview of the clipboard is described in the freedesktop specification [7].

I think it's really unfortunate that desktop and CLI software is so insecure.

[1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Cl...

[2]: https://superuser.com/a/1336764

[3]: https://superuser.com/a/1336764

[4]: https://vi.stackexchange.com/a/96

[5]: https://vim.fandom.com/wiki/Accessing_the_system_clipboard

[6]: https://stackoverflow.com/a/21337063/1111557

[7]: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipb...

Re: LinkedIn is copying the contents of my clipboard on every keystroke

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I'm guessing that's part of the reason they didn't implement a clipboard permission. It would probably have broken a TON of stuff in weird ways. I expect to see an actual clipboard permission at some point.

Wait what, they show the pop-up, but there is no permission toggle for access?

I feel like a copy/paste permission would be useless and the notification is 100x better.

Most people would click "accept" on the permission and never think about it. "Oh of course I need the ability to copy/paste on tiktok, how else will I paste 90sMusicChallenge in the search bar?"

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