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Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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post #5

I think the 'war of mobile OS' as the author calls it will end just as the also still ongoing 'war for the desktop OS' will end: by the introduction of the web OS. An OS is just a GUI for working with your files. As our devices, whether desktop or mobile, will continue to move towards an 'always on, always connected' phase it would be no more than logical to seperate the device from the OS and to launch whatever OS y…

I think there will always be places without a network (that works). The web platform will need a much more functional cache to handle this, but the architecture is already there.

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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post #9

From where I sit, native applications still rule the day. Sure we spend more time in our browsers than anywhere else, but at least for me that was true back when Jacques still has the desktop war raging. IMO there is a good bit of web entrepreneur/HN hive mind selection bias here - I still go to Libre Office when I want to make documents, local dev tools for coding, local media players, local photo editors, etc. Sure…

I agree. I think this viewpoint is a little skewed. Web-based applications have definitely not killed the desktop differences.

However, I think there is a much better chance of them killing the mobile differences to a greater extent, since

1) we don't do as many processing-intense things on mobile platforms, like CAD, designing, etc., and

2) those processing-intense applications we actually do use on phones are also becoming available on the web for the large part.

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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post #9

From where I sit, native applications still rule the day. Sure we spend more time in our browsers than anywhere else, but at least for me that was true back when Jacques still has the desktop war raging. IMO there is a good bit of web entrepreneur/HN hive mind selection bias here - I still go to Libre Office when I want to make documents, local dev tools for coding, local media players, local photo editors, etc. Sure…

I agree. I think this viewpoint is a little skewed. Web-based applications have definitely not killed the desktop differences. However, I think there is a much better chance of them killing the mobile differences to a greater extent, since 1) we don't do as many processing-intense things on mobile platforms, like CAD, designing, etc., and 2) those processing-intense applications we actually do use on phones are also…

I am actually happy that everyone considers desktop software old dated and dead - less competition for me :)

From a perspective of windows software ISV (yes, shareware which is supposed to be dead) I can say that there are lots of opportunities and companies making some serious money, unlike on the web where everyone expects to get things for free.

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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There are certainly plenty of native desktop applications which have not been supplanted by web applications. But the bigger problem is that desktop machines typically have high speed, almost unlimited data connections.

This is not necessarily true for mobile platforms, where there can be coverage issues, bandwidth limitations due to insufficient spectrum and/or cell power buildout, or worse yet, magic break points after which you pay $$$/kb uploaded or downloaded. This is one of the reasons why local storage and native applications may be much more important for mobile applications. No one expects to bring a desktop computer onboard an airplane or a subway and be able to read e-mail. But they do expect to be able to do this on a mobile device.

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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post #8

"Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

market irrationality is generally due to

1. a large entity throwing money away to achieve some outcome. he will eventually be eaten by arbitrage unless he has arbitrary amounts of capital (state actors)

2. the person stating this not understanding what a rational market means.

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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post #9

From where I sit, native applications still rule the day. Sure we spend more time in our browsers than anywhere else, but at least for me that was true back when Jacques still has the desktop war raging. IMO there is a good bit of web entrepreneur/HN hive mind selection bias here - I still go to Libre Office when I want to make documents, local dev tools for coding, local media players, local photo editors, etc. Sure…

Sure, many people use office, media players, photo editors and ide's on the desktop. but most of the new code people write is inside web sites and servers, not inside the desktop. so most developers don't write for the desktop anymore.

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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I wish HN had a filtering system. I don't know why each of his blog posts makes it all they way to the top — I don't find them that insightful or interesting. I would much rather read about software & hacking.

Or is there a JavaScript solution? Has someone implemented a HN filter?

Re: Ios, Android, WP7 - who cares?

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post #19

I wish HN had a filtering system. I don't know why each of his blog posts makes it all they way to the top — I don't find them that insightful or interesting. I would much rather read about software & hacking. Or is there a JavaScript solution? Has someone implemented a HN filter?

Agreed, it seems as if Hacker News has become Jacques' RSS Feed
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