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MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to their digital cars

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Re: MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to their digital cars

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Post by proc0 »

pathseeker wrote: post #7

Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?

People are so stupid they think silencing people is a solution.

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Post by Darmody »

katbyte wrote: post #13
pathseeker wrote: post #7

Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?

Yes - we have them here in Canada and I’m a huge fan. Say whatever you want but you should be held responsible for you words.

My family lived in a place where they were responsible for their words. I can tell you it was not fun.

Everybody is a huge fan until those laws turn against them.

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Post by thepangolino »

UncleMeat wrote: post #17
pathseeker wrote: post #7

Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?

To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. It is a hate symbol and exists almost exclusively to project hatred towards black people.

The problem with that is that it's a pretty slippery slope.

Is this a hate symbol?

If it is and it gets banned, will you also consider whatever other symbol gets co-opted?

Re: MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to their digital cars

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Post by 0l2wn9Bmxw »

ta17711771 wrote: post #20
UncleMeat wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. It is a hate symbol and exists almost exclusively to project hatred towards black people.

> To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. Where does it end?

Is that a good enough reason to not start at all? (Even in general, not necessarily in this context)

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Post by darepublic »

minimaxir wrote: post #5

I wonder if the AI team at Microsoft has built a Confederate Flag Detector. I'd be curious how they got the training data for that.

How about this: scrape Google images, apply those images to cars in Forza, use in-game screens of these cars with a cnn (I doubt it's actually this complicated but I think it makes sense)

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Post by darepublic »

drocer88 wrote: post #31

What next? Tibetan flags? Uighur flags? Palestinian flags? Basque flags? Chechen flags? Israeli flags? South vietnamese flags? Taiwan flags? Dominion of Newfoundland flags? Black nationalist flags? Who's the judge?

The American left

Re: MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to their digital cars

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Post by happytoexplain »

ta17711771 wrote: post #22
katbyte wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes - we have them here in Canada and I’m a huge fan. Say whatever you want but you should be held responsible for you words.

By the government!?

By the people, via the government, as all government action is theoretically supposed to be.

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Post by manuelabeledo »

pathseeker wrote: post #7

Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?

Well, I would lie if I said that I do not appreciate that there are no cars rocking the nazi flag in Germany.

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

ta17711771 wrote: post #20
UncleMeat wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. It is a hate symbol and exists almost exclusively to project hatred towards black people.

> To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. Where does it end?

Why do you assume it continues?
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