What next? Tibetan flags? Uighur flags? Palestinian flags? Basque flags? Chechen flags? Israeli flags? South vietnamese flags? Taiwan flags? Dominion of Newfoundland flags? Black nationalist flags?
Who's the judge?
MS will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag to their digital cars
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#32Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?
Yes - we have them here in Canada and I’m a huge fan. Say whatever you want but you should be held responsible for you words.
As Idi Amin would have said "I guarantee freedom of speech but not freedom after speech"
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#33Image recognition people - is the approach to detecting something as "regular" as a particular flag any different than any other image recognition task? Or are you still just pumping in a ton of training data and doing hotdog/not hotdog?
> is the approach to detecting something as "regular" as a particular flag any different than any other image recognition task
It can be. It doesn't have to be. Image recognition research existed long before the current trend of throwing the kitchen sink at a neural net.
Practically speaking, the best outcomes always come from applying as many different techniques as you can justify and applying a controlled failure-scenario-aware synthesis to the results.
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#34Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?
This isn’t censorship.
If the word censorship can only apply to censorship by the government, then the word "self-censorship" doesn't really exist.
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#35Honest question. For those of you happy that these censorship policies are being implemented by companies in reaction to pressure, do you believe that the ideal end-goal would be 'anti hate speech' laws like those of Germany?
Doing so would probably require amending the First Amendment, which I think would do more harm than good. But Germany seems to have implemented such a system without becoming a dystopian hellscape. Seems a pretty nice place to live.
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#36A good move. However, French national anthem with the words “to arms, let an impure blood
water our furrows!” should also be considered hare speech and therefore censored in all sports events.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. It is a hate symbol and exists almost exclusively to project hatred towards black people.
> To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. Where does it end?
Germany doesn't seem to have significant difficulty banning Nazi symbols and propaganda without accidentally banning, say, depictions of unicorns.
Slippery slopes have varying levels of steepness.
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#38Interesting that the Japanese rising sun flag is mentioned alongside the swastika and the stars and bars; the rising sun flag remains in contemporary use by the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force.
Swastika is a sacred symbol in Hinduism. The original inspiration for Hitler was hooked cross. You will commonly find swastika painted across homes in India.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. It is a hate symbol and exists almost exclusively to project hatred towards black people.
> To me, that'd be a good outcome for the confederate flag. Where does it end?
Like most European countries today? This slope doesn’t seem particularly slippy