Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
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Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#2It's hard to ignore the siren song as a business person of comparing your 300k a year engineers to a senior engineer that costs $80k in India (regardless of the potential hidden costs of cultural and time zone differences).
This gap should probably narrow as more remote work becomes normal, and more people move out of the Valley and can actually live decently on 150k, rather than 300k.
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#3It's hard to ignore the siren song as a business person of comparing your 300k a year engineers to a senior engineer that costs $80k in India (regardless of the potential hidden costs of cultural and time zone differences). This gap should probably narrow as more remote work becomes normal, and more people move out of the Valley and can actually live decently on 150k, rather than 300k.
I think the cost of an engineer is way less than 80K in India. Here in the Netherlands a senior SE would be $80K. I see no reason to go to India instead of western Europe then.
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#4I used to think this was a bad thing, but these days I'm not so sure. Assuming you can get the same (or similar) talent in India instead of the US, doesn't it make sense to do your development in a place where your money goes farther?
The capitalist in me sees this as a win: more value for shareholders, and a big life improvement for Indians.
Can someone explain to me why it's a bad thing? I understand it might be bad for current and future US-based Uber employees, but aside from that, what's the downside? The way I see it, this helps more people overall (and I don't really care about which national flag you identify with).
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#5How is anyone surprised, Uber the taxi app is an international service whether its Vietnam or India is only maintenance/top-up work since the actual core product is up & running since the past decade.
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#6It's hard to ignore the siren song as a business person of comparing your 300k a year engineers to a senior engineer that costs $80k in India (regardless of the potential hidden costs of cultural and time zone differences). This gap should probably narrow as more remote work becomes normal, and more people move out of the Valley and can actually live decently on 150k, rather than 300k.
I think the cost of an engineer is way less than 80K in India. Here in the Netherlands a senior SE would be $80K. I see no reason to go to India instead of western Europe then.
The reason is that instead of 300k (or 80k) you're paying less than 80k.
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#7It's hard to ignore the siren song as a business person of comparing your 300k a year engineers to a senior engineer that costs $80k in India (regardless of the potential hidden costs of cultural and time zone differences). This gap should probably narrow as more remote work becomes normal, and more people move out of the Valley and can actually live decently on 150k, rather than 300k.
Yes, the salaries I've seen bandied about for SV developers are absurd.
That a new grad in SV can out-earn a seasoned dev located elsewhere was never sustainable.
People will point out that the rent is absurdly high too, and maybe it is, but I'd also wager that these employees are renting from colleagues higher up who approve these salaries because they know they'll get a large cut.
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#8It's hard to ignore the siren song as a business person of comparing your 300k a year engineers to a senior engineer that costs $80k in India (regardless of the potential hidden costs of cultural and time zone differences). This gap should probably narrow as more remote work becomes normal, and more people move out of the Valley and can actually live decently on 150k, rather than 300k.
Paying $80k a year in India would get you top level talent.
They’d pay less than that.
Uber is preparing for a death spiral as their financial backing runs out and they need to shrink to the profitable markets.
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#9I used to think this was a bad thing, but these days I'm not so sure. Assuming you can get the same (or similar) talent in India instead of the US, doesn't it make sense to do your development in a place where your money goes farther? The capitalist in me sees this as a win: more value for shareholders, and a big life improvement for Indians. Can someone explain to me why it's a bad thing? I understand it might be ba…
Why not just move the entire company to India, and pay everyone less?
Re: Uber CEO Wants to Shift More Engineering Jobs to India, Sparking Internal Debate
#10I used to think this was a bad thing, but these days I'm not so sure. Assuming you can get the same (or similar) talent in India instead of the US, doesn't it make sense to do your development in a place where your money goes farther? The capitalist in me sees this as a win: more value for shareholders, and a big life improvement for Indians. Can someone explain to me why it's a bad thing? I understand it might be ba…
"Assuming you can get the same (or similar) talent in India instead of the US"
I am not aware of anyone who has succeeded at this in practice. Do you know anyone?