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Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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https://duckduckgo.com/settings#appearance Uncheck the very last option "Site Icons"

I'm assuming that doesn't affect the browser, which is what this issue relates to.

Maybe you have to be logged in to DDG for this to work? Which if true feels that much worse.

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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Disagree on most points, actually: >Faster, less bloat Stock Firefox doesn't actually have that much bloat, and it's not noticeably slower than Chrome on reasonably modern hardware (i.e.: most page loads are near-instant, same as in Chrome on a good connection). >Extension support for Chromium is way better too Until Google decides that your extension is unworthy of being in their store. This notably happened with Pu…

As I said in other another comment, I'm a power user. And by power user I mean probably 10x the normal standard of what a 10x power user means. Tooling is everything to me; which is why I prefer this over anything else. I'm very biased.

You are probably seriously overestimating yourself and/or underestimating a large subset of your audience here.

People here are:

- early developers from majir browsers

- extension creators

- creators of major web properties

- people who spend their work days on the web

- etc

seriously. Don't underestimate HN.

Edit: and as someone who's been very into customizing and extending browsers since early Firefox: your ideas about Firefox vs Chrome tells me that you are either

- deeply biased

- use a subset of browser features that is too small to realize the problems with Chromium (in which case I suspect your 100x superuser is wild hyperbole)

You can come back when Tree Style Tabs including related sub-extensions works as well on Chrome as on Firefox.

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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I think you're being downvoted because you chose to piggyback your comment on a seemingly unrelated one at the top, are being vitriolic, and didn't back up your claims with respect to their intent and refusal to change this.

Well it's related because Mozilla actually cares about your privacy vs DuckDuckGo which obviously could care less from their reaction to this issue. Their refusal to change this is all the proof you need to know. I dont even use DDG I use Google I just think its funny they have a "Privacy browser" that sends all the sites you visit back to their servers

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Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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Route icons.duckduckgo.com to null. Sidenote: The more I use pi-hole the more I realise how essential it is!

Is there a difference between using pi-hole and edinting etc host on Windows? I've heard about pi-hole but I'm not sure what it does exactly.

This is essentially the same, but pi-hole gives you a nice UI, stats etc, and of course you can point all your machine at a pi-hole instead of editing the hosts file on each.

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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DuckDuckGo staff here. As mentioned in the linked page, the purpose of the request is to retrieve a website's favicon so that it can be displayed in certain places within the app or on the results page. We use an internal favicon service because it can be complicated to locate a favicon for a website. They can be stored in a variety of locations and in a variety of formats. The service understands these edge cases an…

Maybe I'm too old for this, but wasn't a favicon supposed to be located at "fancy.url/favicon.ico", or alternatively as a " "? Curious to know why this is an issue.

There are variations of it now due to mobile devices, social sharing etc that may prefer a larger icon.

An online favicon generator will create these variations

Nonetheless, the browser can see this when parsing the page and choose the appropriate path.

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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DuckDuckGo staff here. As mentioned in the linked page, the purpose of the request is to retrieve a website's favicon so that it can be displayed in certain places within the app or on the results page. We use an internal favicon service because it can be complicated to locate a favicon for a website. They can be stored in a variety of locations and in a variety of formats. The service understands these edge cases an…

I'm surprised at how you're handling this. DDG is supposed to be friendly to privacy-aware users. You're dismissing people's valid points and asking them to trust you, just like any other privacy-non-friendly service would do.

Edit: I'm speculating here. But specifically because of the way you've replied here and on Github, my actual level of trust in DDG team went down.

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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DuckDuckGo staff here. As mentioned in the linked page, the purpose of the request is to retrieve a website's favicon so that it can be displayed in certain places within the app or on the results page. We use an internal favicon service because it can be complicated to locate a favicon for a website. They can be stored in a variety of locations and in a variety of formats. The service understands these edge cases an…

Maybe I'm too old for this, but wasn't a favicon supposed to be located at "fancy.url/favicon.ico", or alternatively as a " "? Curious to know why this is an issue.

It's really not an issue. The rest of the browsers handle this without a web service (even Chrome apparently)

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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Take the code from Firefox iOS or Android-components. We spent a lot of time on these and it is all on device. https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/android-components https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/Firefox-iOS

I wonder how many lines of code from big open source applications are generic enough to be reused in other projects. Firefox and Google Chrome probably have the equivalent of many small high quality libraries embedded in them, implementing 'business' logic or protocols, that could be reused in more places. I guess a large scale study on github could be done, with a graph analysis to show potential "cut off" points in…

Yeah... the gesture is nice, but good luck extracting any code from a massive project. Might as well say “Here’s some free oil; all you have to do is dig for it.” Unlike oil, this might not be worth the excavation.

It’s a bit telling that they linked to the GitHub repositories rather than specific lines of code they were talking about.

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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Because it's the easiest (and sometimes only) way to get this functionality on major browsers and browser developers have no plans to implement this functionality natively.

Both Firefox and Chrome have custom search keywords: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-search-from-address... I maintain a set of such keywords in my Firefox, that I use on iOS and Android too. The easiest would be to just use Google btw, as it does a reasonable job to give you the website you're thinking of just by mentioning it in the search query, e.g "Frozen imdb" (though it does a perfect job in this case…

I use chromium and I just type IMDB and it automatically tells me to press tab if I wan't to search imdb.com. What do bangs do better than this?

Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers

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post #238

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Well it's related because Mozilla actually cares about your privacy vs DuckDuckGo which obviously could care less from their reaction to this issue. Their refusal to change this is all the proof you need to know. I dont even use DDG I use Google I just think its funny they have a "Privacy browser" that sends all the sites you visit back to their servers

It is not relevant to this sub-thread, and should have been a new top-level comment.

It's a direct reply to a comment on the sub-thread.
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