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Why ungoogled-chromium over Firefox?
Faster + less bloat
Ad blockers' functionality has been limited on chromium due to changes in the extension API, though
DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
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Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
#62I don't really trust DuckDuckGo, but I use their search service because I trust Google less... I still trust Firefox more for a browser although it won't take much at this point to make me switch.
There's always Startpage. You use Startpage; Startpage uses Google for you, with their own user agent - no history, no tracking.
How does that work?
What does Google have to gain from it? Google has pretty aggressive anti-scraping protections to protect against this exact behavior, so why would they allow Startpage to get away with it?
What does Startpage have to gain from it? Unlike DDG, they don't seem to have any core product, so they fully depend on Google's goodwill which is very shaky grounds when it comes to a long-term business.
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
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Why ungoogled-chromium or Firefox over Brave? Brave is the only browser that includes strong ad and tracker blocking by default, which is the best way to ensure your privacy on the internet. In fact, every decision I've seen from them makes me think they care the most about user privacy, period.
I cannot recommend Brave due to the autosuggestions-for-profit feature. Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23474842 You can install uBlock Origin in 10 seconds from the GitHub release page (see previous link shared). This is vastly better than anything I've seen for ad-blocking.
An auto-suggestion is not a redirect.
Also that just makes me trust them more – they are the only browser vendor that are trying to find business models that don't involve selling my data or selling out to someone who does.
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
#64DuckDuckGo staff here. As mentioned in the linked page, the purpose of the request is to retrieve a website's favicon so that it can be displayed in certain places within the app or on the results page. We use an internal favicon service because it can be complicated to locate a favicon for a website. They can be stored in a variety of locations and in a variety of formats. The service understands these edge cases an…
How can users turn this off?
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I cannot recommend Brave due to the autosuggestions-for-profit feature. Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23474842 You can install uBlock Origin in 10 seconds from the GitHub release page (see previous link shared). This is vastly better than anything I've seen for ad-blocking.
An auto-suggestion is not a redirect. Also that just makes me trust them more – they are the only browser vendor that are trying to find business models that don't involve selling my data or selling out to someone who does.
The issue is that nothing is as pure as ungoogled-chromium is right now. I've also felt that Brave was slow, and not best for developers. As a power user I'm very biased, so Brave may work better for folks that are not as technically skilled and have no idea how to install from GitHub/brew/etc.
Edit: I feel it is slow because it has extra bloat added. Like I said, take my comments here with a grain of salt because I'm a very biased power user. I respect the efforts of these developers regardless of what project it is, the focus on privacy and building something different is truly awesome.
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
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There's always Startpage. You use Startpage; Startpage uses Google for you, with their own user agent - no history, no tracking.
How does that work? What does Google have to gain from it? Google has pretty aggressive anti-scraping protections to protect against this exact behavior, so why would they allow Startpage to get away with it? What does Startpage have to gain from it? Unlike DDG, they don't seem to have any core product, so they fully depend on Google's goodwill which is very shaky grounds when it comes to a long-term business.
They pay Google, and use untargeted ads (that is, not user-targeted) to support the service.
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's always Startpage. You use Startpage; Startpage uses Google for you, with their own user agent - no history, no tracking.
How does that work? What does Google have to gain from it? Google has pretty aggressive anti-scraping protections to protect against this exact behavior, so why would they allow Startpage to get away with it? What does Startpage have to gain from it? Unlike DDG, they don't seem to have any core product, so they fully depend on Google's goodwill which is very shaky grounds when it comes to a long-term business.
Startpage.com says they are paying Google:
"You can’t beat Google when it comes to online search. So we’re paying them to use their brilliant search results in order to remove all trackers and logs."
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
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I guess the problem is when you want to quickly provide a favicon with the search result (beit in the omnibar or actual search page), as you're typing and results are being displayed you cannot send off a request to the site, wait for HTML html to finish up downloading, send off a request to the manifest if its defined for multiple sites at once. On a technical level of course its doable but in reality it's a complet…
Oh, this is for putting an icon next to search results? Yeah, that changes the calculus considerably. I thought this was about showing the favicon in the browser for a site the user visits (per the issue title). In that case, yeah, I don't think the icons are necessary to show at all...
Even if you wanted to implement this, the logic of the service could be directly embedded in the browser as an extension or similar. There’s no reason to depend on a network service for this functionality.
Re: DuckDuckGo browser seemingly sends domains a user visits to DDG servers
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An auto-suggestion is not a redirect. Also that just makes me trust them more – they are the only browser vendor that are trying to find business models that don't involve selling my data or selling out to someone who does.
The issue is that nothing is as pure as ungoogled-chromium is right now. I've also felt that Brave was slow, and not best for developers. As a power user I'm very biased, so Brave may work better for folks that are not as technically skilled and have no idea how to install from GitHub/brew/etc. Edit: I feel it is slow because it has extra bloat added. Like I said, take my comments here with a grain of salt because I'…
Brave is chromium under the hood. Not really sure why you think it would be slower than ungoogled-chromium.
Ditto for developer / power-user experience – it's still chromium. Just with an ad-blocker written in Rust built-in and some other features.