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Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#101

Post by odshoifsdhfs »

Swizec wrote: post #100
odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, actually 7 years old so there is that. But it doesn't matter if it is react or iOS or prolog. If you think about it, a CS degree, that covers a lot of topics, is minimum 3/4 years. And when you get out of uni you are considered an intern/junior. But now, bootcamps/web tutorials, people think that ater 2 years they become an authority on something. I deal with these people everyday. They know 'react' inside out,…

Ok so why would any of that matter? He’s giving you advice on how to get a senior title fast, not on react or CS or engineering at all. Just the fast title acquisition. Who’s better for that advice? Someone who did it in 2 years or someone who took 10?

It matters because he (in my point of view) isn't a senior and is lying about it? Because due to the dynamics of easy money and the lack of developers, you got 2 year bootcamp graduates getting 'senior' titles but being just beyond the junior marker.

It matters because right now, we may have a coming recession where all these 'seniors' will see themselves fucked because companies will have more options and these 'seniors' will be too stuck up to realize they should be taking a more junior-ish position.

It also matters because I deal with these people all day, that because they read the latest blog post on something think they are experts and sidetrack 15 minute meetings to dribble on that we are doing it wrong and waste an hour of my time.

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#102

Post by acemarke »

odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #98
agustif wrote: post #90

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So if we accept this as baseline reality then what do we do?

Honestly I don't know. There is so much cargo culting nowadays in software development (agile, GitHub, white board interviews, hacker rank, tdd, add, ci, cd, redux, etc etc) and so many new people ( I worked in 3 different React projects in the last 2 years with 3 different teams. Only one required something as complex as Redux (and most likely Flux or other simpler state libraries would do). You know what? All of th…

I'm a Redux maintainer. FWIW, we've _always_ tried to clarify when it actually makes sense to use Redux:

https://redux.js.org/faq/general#when-should-i-use-redux

https://medium.com/@dan_abramov/you-might-not-need-redux-be4...

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#103

Post by acemarke »

maps7 wrote: post #65
lukeholder wrote: post #45

It looks like a lot of friends with prepared comments for this launch in here.

I also got a strong sense of this. One comment is promoting the author but the person making the comment hasn't actually read the book.

Yes, because I know the quality of content that Shawn creates.

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#104

Post by ivansavz »

swyx wrote: post #2

Hi HN! I have been writing since April, but this book has been years in the making. So glad to launch it today! Since I switched careers from finance and started doing freeCodeCamp in 2017, I have been studying the principles, strategies, and tactics that make great developers successful and applying it to my own career. This has helped me get hired at a Senior level at AWS in just 3 years. While between jobs, I deci…

Yey softcover. It's the best (only?) way to get real typesetting for print (LaTeX --> PDF), but also modern digital formats (ePub + mobi).

I'm glad to hear more people are using it.

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#105

Post by treetide »

claudiulodro wrote: post #33

Please don't take this the wrong way; I am genuinely curious. As far as I can tell, you've been a professional developer for approximately 2 years. What qualifies you to instruct people how to manage their dev career, let alone charge $40+ for the advice?

About the $40+ for the advice part - seriously, that is a few hours of developer salary. Compared to the few days it would take reading, it is essentially nothing.

Now the question is, investing those few days total saves you more worries. And doesn't derail you. That's hard to evaluate, and I don't attempt to. But for information, $40 is cheap.

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

treetide wrote: post #105
claudiulodro wrote: post #33

Please don't take this the wrong way; I am genuinely curious. As far as I can tell, you've been a professional developer for approximately 2 years. What qualifies you to instruct people how to manage their dev career, let alone charge $40+ for the advice?

About the $40+ for the advice part - seriously, that is a few hours of developer salary. Compared to the few days it would take reading, it is essentially nothing. Now the question is, investing those few days total saves you more worries. And doesn't derail you. That's hard to evaluate, and I don't attempt to. But for information, $40 is cheap.

? A few minutes.

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#107

Post by freewilly1040 »

maps7 wrote: post #68
claudiulodro wrote: post #33

Please don't take this the wrong way; I am genuinely curious. As far as I can tell, you've been a professional developer for approximately 2 years. What qualifies you to instruct people how to manage their dev career, let alone charge $40+ for the advice?

Agreed. If the author had 40 years experience I would pay attention but 2 years experience is nothing. Maybe it should be sold as "what to expect in the first 2 years of your career".

And even then the advice would be worth little compared to more experienced people

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#108

Post by reroute1 »

acemarke wrote: post #103
maps7 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also got a strong sense of this. One comment is promoting the author but the person making the comment hasn't actually read the book.

Yes, because I know the quality of content that Shawn creates.

Quality spam content! Hayuk you are such a troll

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

#109

Post by reroute1 »

peferron wrote: post #89
tydok wrote: post #25

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Ask more? The book is expensive. If he lowers the price, say to $10, the sales will probably increase 10x.

I highly doubt sales would increase by 10x, or even 2x. This book isn't trying to sell itself by saying "hey, buy me and you'll be entertained for three hours, which is a better value than a movie ticket". This book is trying to convince potential customers that it will help them graduate from junior engineer at local_company to senior engineer at FAANG. It's no coincidence that the author mentioned right here in his…

Congrats your job title doesn't mean shit to anyone worth their salt bro

Re: Show HN: Coding Career Handbook

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Post by jayrice257 »

peferron wrote: post #89
tydok wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ask more? The book is expensive. If he lowers the price, say to $10, the sales will probably increase 10x.

I highly doubt sales would increase by 10x, or even 2x. This book isn't trying to sell itself by saying "hey, buy me and you'll be entertained for three hours, which is a better value than a movie ticket". This book is trying to convince potential customers that it will help them graduate from junior engineer at local_company to senior engineer at FAANG. It's no coincidence that the author mentioned right here in his…

Lol that job title doesn't mean shit to anyone except clowns like this chasing money. The guy has 2 years experience and you're pointing to his job title as if he's some genius... That's why this book is actually devoid of any novel content
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