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Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

#131
It's just bad, real bad, only made worse by the LAED bill they've recently introduced.

Rianna Pfefferkorn wrote a in-depth analysis about EARN IT which is really good to read:

https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/01/earn-it-act-how-b...

I also wrote a smaller high level article about it if you're interested in a briefer read:

https://medium.com/@console.blog/action-tell-your-representa...

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

#132

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> As a european, I don't see any party that actually have american people's interest in mind. As a human, I don't see any party that actually have regular people's interest in mind.

Define "regular people's interest". American values? Health and security? There are governments that are pro-people (as opposed to pro-money) but they are generally not big global players, or if they are, they are designated Enemies of the West and it is enormously politically incorrect to discuss critically about them.

there is no such thing as "regular people's interest". everyone's interest is a little bit different.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

#134
One of the groups that signed on for updates on such laws sent me a link over SMS. It automated calling 22 senators to ask them to reject Earn IT. I spoke to staff or left messages with 20. Two had full voicemail. One of this was my local rep, Feinstein. Figures.

http://noearnitact.org/call

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

#135
Earn It act is adorable little attempt at institutional police state policy.

One would argue that terrorists will simply use other inventive ways to get around lack of main stream encrypted tech (and they will). Or that a back door for the govt is a back door for anyone (which is true). Both are logical points.

I posit that this is known among backers of Earn It - they're not that dumb. Therefore, this isn't about child porn or terrorists, its about dissenters of established institutions (government, corporations, media, etc). That's the move - the "party of Davos" sees the populist wave from both left and right (AOC, Bernie, BLM, Trump, Bannon, etc) and this how they think they will stop it.

The next AOC, BLM, or any populist movement will be labeled as threats to the established order, maybe as domestic terrorists. With Earn It, you can see who they organize with, when they meet, how they strategize, etc. This is COINTELPRO with smart phones [1]. Very slick, very effective. It's what I would do in their shoes.

The only flaw is that it is poorly marketed. It's so transparent, it's cute.

J Edgar Hoover is smiling somewhere in the after life.

Do yourself a favor, treat your phone and email like CIA recording device. We'll be fine.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO#:~:text=COINTELPRO%....

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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What are "bailouts of the Iraq war" ?

Maybe OP means both the bailouts in 2008 plus the Iraq war in 2003? Or the fact that the US is still actively involve militarily in predator bombing seven nations?

I meant "and" as you guessed (I think?).

Everyone vowed to vote out the representatives that bailed out Wall Street and left home owners holding the bag. Then whatever came along and poof, that didn't matter.

Same (and more importantly) with the Iraq war. IMO, you voted for it, you're out. Doesn't matter why, doesn't matter what you believed at the time, you're out.

There's been zero accountability on death and destruction on the grandest scale this century, so I don't expect anyone to remotely lift a finger about some IT bill.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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> As a european, I don't see any party that actually have american people's interest in mind. As an American, I don't see any party that has my interests in mind. Elections always seem to be having to choose the lesser of two evils.

Obligatory plug for electoral reform. Lesser evils aren't inevitable; they're a product of a bad voting system. https://www.fairvote.org/rcv https://www.fairvote.org/alternatives Maine has converted to RCV already and it's stood up in court; 49 to go.

Lesser evils aren't inevitable; they're a product of a bad voting system.

Other countries with other systems don't really do much better.

The fundamental problem is that the people who want this sort of power are the last ones who should ever be allowed to wield it. When people are willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get a job that pays $500K a year, you have to wonder what's really going on.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

#139
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Been working on that last one for years. At least I'm likely to out live her.

I believe you. I've never understood how she garners so much support in progressive Cali of all places.

California is not as progressive as you might hope. The cities are full of progressives, but outside the cities is very conservative. You have to be fairly moderate to win statewide office.

Newsom was a reaction to Trump, but sort of an aberration. More than half of our governors have been Republicans, including Regan, who went on be President and a paragon of the GOP.

Since the 80s 14 out of 30 years has been Republicans, and Jerry Brown was 10 of the remaining 16 years, and he's pretty moderate as far as Democrats go.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

#140
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I cannot believe that the one thing we have bipartisan consensus on is destroying strong encryption. I guess I’m biased since this is essentially my whole livelihood, but this is crazy, right?

Do you remember the bipartisan consensus on SOPA/PIPA?

"This bill, COICA, was introduced on September 20, 2010, a Monday. And in the press release heralding the introduction of this bill, way at the bottom, it said it was scheduled for a vote on September 23 — just three days later.

And while of course there had to be a vote — you can't pass a bill without a vote — the results of that vote were a foregone conclusion. Because if you looked at the introduction of the law, it wasn't just introduced by one, rogue, eccentric member of Congress. It was introduced by the chair of the committee — and co-sponsored by nearly all the other members — Republicans and Democrats. So there would be a vote, but it wouldn't be much of a surprise, because nearly everyone who was voting had signed their name to the bill — before it was even introduced.

I can't stress enough how unusual this is. This is emphatically not how Congress works. I'm not talking about how Congress should work, the way you see on Schoolhouse Rock. I mean the way it really works. I think we all know that Congress is a dead zone of deadlock and dysfunction. There are months of debates and horse-trading and hearings and stall tactics.

...

Whoever was behind this was good."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jwherrman/how-aaron-swa... (excerpt from talk at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqriFtr2k-k -- FWIW the lobbyist behind sopa/pipa was Chris Dodd, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dodd#Motion_Picture_Asso...)

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