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Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by annoyingnoob »

choppaface wrote: post #100
qppo wrote: post #40

To Californians, Dianne Feinstein is one of the cosponsors of the bill in the Senate. It really grinds my gears seeing our senior leadership from California take actions that directly harm our interests, both towards our peoples' freedom and our businesses. I feel vindicated for voting against her in 2018, because I thought she'd be out of touch with our interests as a state.

Send her an e-mail in 2 minutes telling her to stop supporting EARN-IT https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/e-mail-me

I've done that many times over the years - she stopped responding and refuses to consider the opinion of encryption experts.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by cavanasm »

lukifer wrote: post #97
thayne wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a european, I don't see any party that actually have american people's interest in mind. As an American, I don't see any party that has my interests in mind. Elections always seem to be having to choose the lesser of two evils.

Obligatory plug for electoral reform. Lesser evils aren't inevitable; they're a product of a bad voting system. https://www.fairvote.org/rcv https://www.fairvote.org/alternatives Maine has converted to RCV already and it's stood up in court; 49 to go.

Major this. Also plug for CGP Grey's "politics in the animal kingdom" video series that explains exactly why we have that 'lesser of two evils' problem, and how exactly RCV and Alternative vote systems resolve that problem, in a very simple, understandable way.

https://www.cgpgrey.com/politics-in-the-animal-kingdom

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by pphysch »

snarf21 wrote: post #79
blintz wrote: post #3

I cannot believe that the one thing we have bipartisan consensus on is destroying strong encryption. I guess I’m biased since this is essentially my whole livelihood, but this is crazy, right?

Fear-mongering is strong. Look at all the freedoms we lost after 9/11. Pedophiles and terrorists and porn are always the scapegoats. It is also a very electable sound bite. Everyone is against the "bad people". Re-election at any cost is the goal. We have government of the people and by the people but we stopped being for the people long long ago.

Don't forget the communists, the OG once-and-future scapegoats.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by arminiusreturns »

djsumdog wrote: post #36
mikestew wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can run, and with that platform your opponent will conveniently turn it around into "my opponent supports child molestors and terrorists". Because if you think you'll simply walk up to the podium talking about something most folks could not give a working definition for, boy, are you going to be in for a shock when your opponent "dumbs it down" for the audience. Which is how we end up with stuff like the EARN IT…

> my opponent supports child molestors The ruling elite have a monopoly on this. They publicly opposite it via bills like this and use media giants to crush 'conspiracy theories' involving people like Epstein and all the people he was closely associated with in Washington and Hollywood. I think if we actually got evidence and leaks on how bad child abuse within politicians are, Americans would be absolutely horrified…

Indeed, but think about who is running those blackmail ops... the three letters, well, how is it that Schumer put it, "you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from sunday at getting back at you..."

[1] https://youtu.be/6OYyXv2l4-I?t=52

We need a new Church committee.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by qppo »

coldpie wrote: post #102
qppo wrote: post #40

To Californians, Dianne Feinstein is one of the cosponsors of the bill in the Senate. It really grinds my gears seeing our senior leadership from California take actions that directly harm our interests, both towards our peoples' freedom and our businesses. I feel vindicated for voting against her in 2018, because I thought she'd be out of touch with our interests as a state.

Feinstein is easily the worst Democratic Senator. It's absolutely bonkers to me that a state where tech is as important as it is keeps re-electing her. Surely there's someone out there who wants to primary her?

CA has a blanket primary, which means that all candidates from all parties take part in the primary and then the top 2 compete in the general election, regardless of party affiliation.

Feinstein wiped the floor with everyone in the primary in 2018. She took 44% of the vote, and the next leading candidate (Kevin de Leon) took 12%. When they ran against each other, de Leon lost by a fairly large margin but turnout kind of sucked.

de Leon wasn't a good candidate by any means, and I voted for the guy. He always struck me as a bit of a smarmy huckster who didn't stand for anything but reelection. But I knew that Feinstein was probably running for her last term and only cared about serving the national party's interests, and not our state. I'll take the guy that wants my next vote over someone that probably won't live long enough to get it.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by ajzinsbwbs »

bzb3 wrote: post #81
ajzinsbwbs wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That scares me. If that entrapment-at-scale is legal, it could be deployed to throw huge numbers of people in jail for buying drugs or supporting terrorism.

If I emailed you and offered you to share pictures of naked 13 year olds, would you accept? If I texted you and told you I'm 13 years old, would you start hitting on me?

No I wouldn’t, but legal precedents that get set in these cases will carry over to prosecutions of other crimes.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by ipnon »

darkarmani wrote: post #68
ipnon wrote: post #33

The primary impediment to combating child sexual abuse material is the scarcity of law enforcement agents relative to the scale of offenders.[0] Law enforcement agencies are already at the limit of how many offenders they can prosecute because offenders are primarily detected by agents who are posing as offenders or by agents who are posing as victims. The solution proposed by the researchers in the referenced docume…

So, create some dog-and-ponies AI start-up for this in the districts of the most influential lawmakers, with stated job counts (for AI-mechanical turk work that hires lots of people). Tie the "correct" solution to their real political motivations and it will get done in a heartbeat. It has to be something they can sell to their base though.

We don't need to be cynical. We can demand that our government guarantees our rights to safety and privacy because they are not mutually exclusive.

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by emiliobumachar »

hvis wrote: post #76
sailfast wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"My opponent supports the attorney general having access to your porn habits. I support your privacy" is a pretty straightforward simplified riposte to your above oversimplification.

Let's take it a step further: "My opponent supports giving all law enforcement officers unrestricted access to your children's chats, photos and calls."

A bit further: "The NSA can and does see your nudes and those of your family."

Re: Oppose the Earn IT Act

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Post by pphysch »

bzb3 wrote: post #81
ajzinsbwbs wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That scares me. If that entrapment-at-scale is legal, it could be deployed to throw huge numbers of people in jail for buying drugs or supporting terrorism.

If I emailed you and offered you to share pictures of naked 13 year olds, would you accept? If I texted you and told you I'm 13 years old, would you start hitting on me?

The gap between ideation and action is significant, and approaches like this are getting firmly into "prosecuting thought crime" territory.
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