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Better than being ruled by communists, that's for damn sure. That was my experience, anyway.
I’m really curious: what is your experience that you’re referring to?
It's interesting to see how proactive a lot of developed countries are being with getting ready to welcome refugees from Hong Kong, especially compared to the Syrian crisis a few years ago.
UK offer is a 5-year timed right to stay, not even permanent residence.
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Hong Kong was a British colony for generations and is still strongly influenced by western culture. Probably why China has such an obsession with crushing it. Adopting HK citizens is a far easier sell than Syrians. They already speak English, are highly educated, wealthy, westernized, and have special status in UK law. Letting a ton of refugees in is a large burden on the host country. They don't share British cultur…
> Adopting HK citizens is a far easier sell than Syrians. They already speak English No they don't. According to the Hong Kong government's 2011 census only 41% of residents spoke English moderately well (not even fluently, just moderately well). 20% reported not being able to speak any English whatsoever; not even a few sentences. Only 57% of residents of Hong Kong considered themselves "bilingual". Only 30% of stud…
==About 350,000 UK passport holders, and 2.6 million others eligible, will be able to come to the UK for five years.==
==Under the government's plans, all British Overseas Nationals and their dependants will be given right to remain in the UK, including the right to work and study, for five years. At this point, they will be able to apply for settled status, and after a further year, seek citizenship.==
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Surprising isn't it, given how much of a driving force EU immigration was in the Brexit debate.
Is it surprising? UK has a problem with certain races coming over. What’s the difference between Syrian refugees and Hong Kongers? They would both be seeking refugee status essentially.
I know I don't have a problem with Syrian refugees and I would imagine that just one person out 60 something million would be enough to refute your statement.
No, only to a tiny subset of HK residents on a very arbitrary basis, specifically excluding anyone under 23 (so most protestors) and any child (so most people who don't want to literally abandon their kids).
68% of conservative voters, 71% of labour voters, and 77% of libdem voters support this. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/0...
Moving people & jobs physically to UK, when people have physical investment in a house, school, bank accounts, investments is not easy. I can see people moving if CCP is literally killing non-protesting citizens like holocaust. On top of it, what is to prevent CCP from blocking people from leaving?
People will take a lot before they physically leave the country. And CCP knows that very well.
No, only to a tiny subset of HK residents on a very arbitrary basis, specifically excluding anyone under 23 (so most protestors) and any child (so most people who don't want to literally abandon their kids).
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They generally reject English where possible. Irish is the first official language.
> Irish is the first official language. Which outside of a few details like bilingual signs or legislation, is more aspirational than reality. On the legislation point, while it is translated into Irish and legally speaking the Irish version takes precedence, it's usually drafted in English and translated. This has caused issues such as embarrassment for the government where they had to update the proposed constituti…
You could say the same for Wales. Not sure if they are included or excluded traditionally.
On a slight tangent, it makes me giggle to see the Gaelic versions of towns on the outskirts of Glasgow. If Ireland is aspirational, Scotland is comically optimistic. The average Glaswegian knows more Spanish or French than they do Gaelic.
It's interesting to see how proactive a lot of developed countries are being with getting ready to welcome refugees from Hong Kong, especially compared to the Syrian crisis a few years ago.
UK offer is a 5-year timed right to stay, not even permanent residence.
That's not nothing.
68% of conservative voters, 71% of labour voters, and 77% of libdem voters support this. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/0...
It goes on to list the coronavirus and Tiananmen as possible reasons; isn't the most obvious contributory factor that a lot of voters have been born since then, and it hasn't been on the national curriculum or often reported on?