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Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents

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It's interesting to see how proactive a lot of developed countries are being with getting ready to welcome refugees from Hong Kong, especially compared to the Syrian crisis a few years ago.

When was the last time someone from Hong Kong commited a terrorist attack.

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68% of conservative voters, 71% of labour voters, and 77% of libdem voters support this. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/0...

Surprising isn't it, given how much of a driving force EU immigration was in the Brexit debate.

Hong Kong was a British colony until 1997.

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The government they made the contract with didn't even exist anymore. The Qing Empire made that contract with the UK. Independence or just keeping HK in the UK both make at least as much sense as giving it to a country that didn't even exist when the contract was formed.

Then Honk Hong should have been given back to the Republic of China (Taiwan) which is the direct successor of the Qing empire, not the PRC. RPC is not a successor of Qing nor ROC since ROC still exists.

Honestly I think so too, but I doubt the UK government wanted to start a war with China.

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> Before, we could at least try to get the EU to go to bat for our interests, and have a real impact. the same EU that rewrote its coronavirus report several times in fear of CCP repercussions? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/europe/disinformati... come on

I did say "try". Now we cannot even try, and stuff like this happens.

what would you expect it to even try to do with the UK present, given that EU foreign policy can be veto'ed by a single member state?

several of which are keen to preserve or grow their CCP trade

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Hong Kong as a Special Economic Zone (SEZ) instead of a Special Administrative Region (SAR) would be an easy transition. Although I don't see it more appealing than other SEZ's Shanghai's Free Trade Zone or the entire Hainan Province.

But the consolidation of existing companies and operations in Hong Kong would still be pretty unique, its uniqueness still not that relevant. For regional price discovery it would be useful, like for some publicly traded companies or local futures markets.

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It will disproportionately take away the more wealthy and better educated. The majority of HKers live in public housing, pay no tax and are unlikely to have the means to live in the UK since there will be no recourse to public funds. This level of brain drain, as in the other mass migration events away from HK, could trigger the government to loosen their grip.

> This level of brain drain, as in the other mass migration events away from HK, could trigger the government to loosen their grip. I've heard that HK is no longer as important to China as it was 20 years ago. HK's contribution to China's GDP has declined in relative terms as the rest of China has developed. With regards to the brain drain I get the impression that there are plenty of people from the mainland that co…

Our biggest advantage is that we are a trilingual society with a deep understanding of both western and Chinese culture. Although there are many people in the mainland who have studied abroad, the ability to understand the needs of Chinese and Western business is definitely not as pervasive. But I agree that HK isn't anywhere as near valuable to China, especially in terms of finance.

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After reading Open Borders by Bryan Cahlan, I’m convinced that if there is a burden on the host country it’s temporary. Long term, I think the host country has much more to gain than to lose.

It’s the reverse, the burden is definitive and ever growing. A large group of immigrants allow them to keep themselves in a cultural bubble, build a parallel economy (and society, actually), occupy some part of cities and setup political parties. Source: I’m French, and I quit my country in part for this reason.

J'ai quitte mon pays... J'ai quitte ma maison.... ma ville... ma triste ville

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Usually but not necessarily. Traditionally Republic of Ireland is not considered part of the Anglosphere, if you want to get technical.

They generally reject English where possible. Irish is the first official language.

> Irish is the first official language.

Which outside of a few details like bilingual signs or legislation, is more aspirational than reality.

On the legislation point, while it is translated into Irish and legally speaking the Irish version takes precedence, it's usually drafted in English and translated. This has caused issues such as embarrassment for the government where they had to update the proposed constitutional amendment required to legalise same sex marriage as the Irish translation accidentally legalised _only_ same sex marriage: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-language-vers...

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This is exactly why I'm trying to move out of the USA.

Why trying ? If it is so bad in the US, what is keeping you there? Many developed countries have relatively few immigration hurdles for US Americans to pass. UK in particular, European countries are lax in general in these regards (I live in Germany).

"Relatively few" usually means a significant employment barrier - you usually have to be making a certain amount of money which is hard to come by at the lower rungs of STEM employment, especially if you're restricted to applying for companies you can interview with from overseas.
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