I would have said that returning Hong Kong back to China was one of the biggest mistakes the UK has made, but here we are in 2020. It would have been better if they made it into an independent city state like Singapore.
Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
The word anglosphere sounds a little bit racist. black people are also here in america since the beginning.
The word just means "English-speaking countries."
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aren't there also similar laws like that in USA? People are being recommended life sentences for throwing a molotov at an empty police vehicle during these George Floyd protests and are being labeled as terrorists by Trump. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/us/brooklyn-molotov-lawyers-p...
Good. I don't care if it's a police car or someone's personal car or an empty cardboard box. If you're throwing around molotov cocktails you should go to jail.
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#74> About 350,000 UK passport holders, and 2.6 million others eligible, will be able to come to the UK for five years. Hong kong has a population of over 7 mil so this is less than half. What's the criteria for this chance at a uk citizenship? I found a good video about the special passports given to hong kong from the uk. It is a bit complicated but this video seems to summarise the important bits quite well.[1] [1] h…
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#75> About 350,000 UK passport holders, and 2.6 million others eligible, will be able to come to the UK for five years. Hong kong has a population of over 7 mil so this is less than half. What's the criteria for this chance at a uk citizenship? I found a good video about the special passports given to hong kong from the uk. It is a bit complicated but this video seems to summarise the important bits quite well.[1] [1] h…
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hong Kong was a British colony for generations and is still strongly influenced by western culture. Probably why China has such an obsession with crushing it. Adopting HK citizens is a far easier sell than Syrians. They already speak English, are highly educated, wealthy, westernized, and have special status in UK law. Letting a ton of refugees in is a large burden on the host country. They don't share British cultur…
> Adopting HK citizens is a far easier sell than Syrians. They already speak English No they don't. According to the Hong Kong government's 2011 census only 41% of residents spoke English moderately well (not even fluently, just moderately well). 20% reported not being able to speak any English whatsoever; not even a few sentences. Only 57% of residents of Hong Kong considered themselves "bilingual". Only 30% of stud…
You have to consider which ones are being adopted. It is overwhelmingly the educated and wealthy ones who will go, and a far higher percentage of them speak English.
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#77It's interesting to see how proactive a lot of developed countries are being with getting ready to welcome refugees from Hong Kong, especially compared to the Syrian crisis a few years ago.
Please enlighten me. As a German, I have yet to see even a statement of any German politician to do as the Brits do. Is there any non-english speaking country being "proactive"?
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#78https://www.freemovement.org.uk/bno-visa-hong-kong-dominic-r....
tldr;
It applies to Hong Kongers who applied for British National (Overseas) Citizenship (BNO) before registration closed in 1997, and it can not be inherited. Many of the young HK protestors will therefore be ineligible for it.
BNO is an obscure post-Colonial status applicable to Hong Kongers which did not up till now grant long term residence to the UK.
BNOs who now want to take up the government's offer for long term residence in the UK will have to fork a significant up front fee. This makes it available only to wealthy BNOs. If the government wanted to they could have changed the law to allow them to skip much of this, but they haven't.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't be surprised if the government thought exactly that, but I don't think it would work - HKers are mostly urban and well-educated, especially the politicized groups that are worried by Chinese rule. It's unlikely they will happily accept to become an underclass. Still, it is the decent thing to do. It also underlines once again this country has no real power or influence left in the superpower age. Before, w…
> Before, we could at least try to get the EU to go to bat for our interests, and have a real impact. the same EU that rewrote its coronavirus report several times in fear of CCP repercussions? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/europe/disinformati... come on
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because of the rise of the authoritarian left spreading fear across the country with violence and looting?
No, the authoritarian right which includes US liberals. The left doesn't even exist worldwide except in extremely small insignificant numbers pumped up by media to create new red scare conditions among the population. The left has been crushed for the last 40+ years by the authoritarian right and has absolutely no backbone. The authoritarian right runs the gig, the authoritarian right creates the violence. Edit: DSA,…
The ways things are going currently, if you don't agree with the left on things you can lose your job. You can't voice an opinion that is different or you get labeled a racist. You can see this every day in plain sight.