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Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by oh_sigh »

triceratops wrote: post #195
oh_sigh wrote: post #142

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> So "how dangerous is the job?" seems relevant to me. How does the comparative danger of fields change how dangerous something is? If someone said "Shaq is really tall", would a reasonable response be "No he isn't. Yao Ming is taller"? > A large fraction of police deaths on the job are traffic accidents. Yes, that is one way cops die. But this seems decidedly different contextually than the dangers faced by, say, pi…

> If someone said "Shaq is really tall", would a reasonable response be "No he isn't. Yao Ming is taller"? If Shaq and Yao played on the same team and Shaq alone started demanding special accommodations due to his height (like extra-large showers or something) that were prohibitively expensive, and refused to play until he got his way, that would be a perfectly valid response. Sound crazy? It's still saner than some…

I don't know who argued that cops should be able to break the law because of their job but it wasn't me.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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readme wrote: post #196
seth_tr wrote: post #193

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The police don't acknowledge that these were mistake[1][2][3]. They think this is the system working. They act in bad faith and so please don't run around grant them good faith in arguments. We want the systems that enable this brutality changed. This is like saying "Facebook does some good things so let's ignore the systematic problems it causes" or "Facebook is staffed by people so we have to accept an amount of th…

Why not go find me three links to instances where the police did acknowledge their mistakes?

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Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by halostatue »

stevehawk wrote: post #188
ogre_codes wrote: post #120

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If your narrative is correct, then the couple almost certainly would have been served better by documenting the violence and destruction themselves rather than coming off like armed idiots.

i'm not sure that a video camera offers the same line of defense as a firearm when you feel your life is in danger. after all, the incident was a straight up gun standoff with weapons on both sides.

[citation required]

I’ve seen no evidence of guns from the protestors, just the racist Karen and Ken.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by nowandlater »

throwvid19 wrote: post #185

The number of comments in here that ask for additional/richer data and are being flagged is supremely concerning. I understand that this is a hot issue with very polarized sides, but in what kinds of circumstances is having more data bad , except to intentionally support bias? Please understand that my question is only to understand why, in the context of accumulating data, is trying to obtain more/better data NOT a…

Here's a thought I've had recently: it might be worthwhile to have a page, perhaps linked to from the topic's comment page, that shows all flagged comments for said topic. People would not be able to reply to these comments, but everyone would be able to read them. I'm not sure if it has any merit or not, but it's just an idea.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by proc0 »

downandout wrote: post #107

As a person that makes decisions based on data, rather than emotions, it would be interesting to see a comparison of the volume of such incidents on both sides. Is there a similar repo of the looting and violence committed by protesters? I think that would give a more accurate picture of all of this. We would then know if the police brutality incidents paled in comparison to violence/looting by the public, or vice ve…

People here won't have it. They want to believe the Mainstream media narrative, and it hurts their feels too much to consider there might be another side to this whole mess. Of course they will blame police once crime rates multiplies in all the democratic-run cities. It's blind loyalty, dogma, a secular religion.

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Post by Natsu »

nowandlater wrote: post #204
throwvid19 wrote: post #185

The number of comments in here that ask for additional/richer data and are being flagged is supremely concerning. I understand that this is a hot issue with very polarized sides, but in what kinds of circumstances is having more data bad , except to intentionally support bias? Please understand that my question is only to understand why, in the context of accumulating data, is trying to obtain more/better data NOT a…

Here's a thought I've had recently: it might be worthwhile to have a page, perhaps linked to from the topic's comment page, that shows all flagged comments for said topic. People would not be able to reply to these comments, but everyone would be able to read them. I'm not sure if it has any merit or not, but it's just an idea.

You can see them if you turn on showdead, BTW.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by nowandlater »

Natsu wrote: post #207
nowandlater wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a thought I've had recently: it might be worthwhile to have a page, perhaps linked to from the topic's comment page, that shows all flagged comments for said topic. People would not be able to reply to these comments, but everyone would be able to read them. I'm not sure if it has any merit or not, but it's just an idea.

You can see them if you turn on showdead, BTW.

Oh, thanks very much!

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by trickstra »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #172
enriquto wrote: post #85

There is a similar site for the spanish violence against the catalan referendum of 2017: https://spanishpolice.github.io/ In that case, unfortunately, the videos are only stored on youtube and twitter, so you cannot backup them easily just by cloning the repo.

I really worry about videos being lost, almost feels like someone should do an archive every so often and put it up as torrents that many people can help backup. Just a thought

https://archivebox.io/

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by Uehreka »

SpelingBeeChamp wrote: post #159
Uehreka wrote: post #153

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It’s one thing to say “given there will be crime, and some criminals are violent, cops may have to be violent sometimes to stop criminals”. That’s a pretty bloodless analysis. Let’s get to the fun part: “if cops perceive someone to be a criminal, how violent will we allow them to be, relative to how violent the perceived criminal is?” In the case of the cops assaulting that vigil for Elijah McClain (it was a peaceful…

Serious question: do you think that police officers should have to accept themselves to getting hurt as part of their job? Meaning, that it's actually an expectation the public has of police officers that they will get hurt if someone is fighting with them. To me, that seems like the inevitable consequence of not quickly taking control using decisive force. That's the issue I think exists with 1:1.1 response. It does…

We can talk about that when they get down to like, 3x to 5x force.

Right now we are seeing video after video of cops tear gassing civilians for throwing empty water bottles at them, running over civilians using SUVs for "refusing to disperse" and knocking out old folks who are going "Hey man, what if this is a bad idea though?".

The ratio right now is so high, the kinds of conversations you may want to have aren't even relevant.

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