Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

Post by hbt » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 2:26 AM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #139

zaroth wrote: post #116

I think at the very least the title should be Git Repo of Alleged Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests. Like another commenter downthread, I spent some time looking through incident reports in my own State, and found some of them to either be simply unsubstantiated claims, or videos of police reasonably appearing to be doing the very dangerous job of managing a riot. There are valid concerns of the…

When the entire force quit (their duties, not quitting taking a salary) over their coworkers being charged for pushing a elderly man onto the pavement and walking away as he bleeds out of his ears unconscious, then it's 59/59 cops who aren't heroes. When reporting police misconduct internally is met with being charged with filing a false report and being kicked off the force, or being committed to an institution unti…

Post by seth_tr » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 2:38 AM UTC

readme wrote: post #192

The problem here is that police are not infallible but everyone wants them to be. If there is violence in humanity you would be naive to think police would be exempted from it. That is why I don't like coverage like this: why not also catalog some of the good things police do? That wouldn't further your point, so why would you do it?

Post by triceratops » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 2:42 AM UTC

oh_sigh wrote: post #142

triceratops wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A commonly accepted definition of hero is "performing a duty and/or serving others, even at great danger to oneself, often for little or no reward". So "how dangerous is the job?" seems relevant to me. > there is a world of difference between professions where accidents are common, and a profession where humans may be actively trying to kill you. A large fraction of police deaths on the job are traffic accidents.

> So "how dangerous is the job?" seems relevant to me. How does the comparative danger of fields change how dangerous something is? If someone said "Shaq is really tall", would a reasonable response be "No he isn't. Yao Ming is taller"? > A large fraction of police deaths on the job are traffic accidents. Yes, that is one way cops die. But this seems decidedly different contextually than the dangers faced by, say, pi…

Post by readme » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 2:43 AM UTC

phonypc wrote: post #194

readme wrote: post #192

The problem here is that police are not infallible but everyone wants them to be. If there is violence in humanity you would be naive to think police would be exempted from it. That is why I don't like coverage like this: why not also catalog some of the good things police do? That wouldn't further your point, so why would you do it?

If you look at these things and see the inevitable result of fallible humans, not the willful abuse of power, I'd argue you're not really paying attention.

Post by seth_tr » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 2:47 AM UTC

readme wrote: post #196

seth_tr wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police don't acknowledge that these were mistake[1][2][3]. They think this is the system working. They act in bad faith and so please don't run around grant them good faith in arguments. We want the systems that enable this brutality changed. This is like saying "Facebook does some good things so let's ignore the systematic problems it causes" or "Facebook is staffed by people so we have to accept an amount of th…

Why not go find me three links to instances where the police did acknowledge their mistakes?