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The End of the Redis Adventure

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Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by bborud »

antirez wrote: post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

I haven't used Redis before, but I have been considering it for a project I'm working on so I've been having a look.

Just wanted to offer you my thanks. I've seen the project a bit from the sidelines over the years out of interest, and I think you should be proud of it.

Hope you will do something that excites you next. My only tip is : don't worry about what other people think is exciting - follow your gut.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by gus_massa »

cat199 wrote: post #124
sitkack wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does FreeBSD have a BDFL? We don't have enough data points to determine if what you are saying is correct. I have also seen lots of BDFL projects smoke out. Is the lesson that actual dictatorships only survive long term if 1) the dictator is a nice person and 2) they eventually get managed by an open democratic process? I think you are actually describing the two clocks problem. Lots of BDFL projects have their own C…

this is IMHO no different the real world - a 'good' despot/monarch/etc can be a good leader, but this is highly dependent on the situation (read: leader), and leadership transition process is always a risky one. Democracies/Republics work well so long as the community has a generally shared vision, but can be hampered when there is too much dissent, but generally avoid the succession problem

In a FOSS it is very easy to fork, so if the BDFL get's mad you can just say thanks and fork the project and continue. So that keeps BDFL in check.

IRL you own a plot of land, or a home. Or you have a small factory, and there are a lot of network dependencies, who does you sell the supplies, where you sell your products. It the local BDFL get's mad it is very difficult to move. (Specially if there are some cash flow controls were you can't get out with the money that you get selling your home or that you have saved.)

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by robohoe »

antirez wrote: post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

Thank you! Redis is what brought back the spark of fun in developing in me.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by Frondo »

philwelch wrote: post #110
brobdingnagians wrote: post #87

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>> "old white guy in charge of Linux" Erhmmm, why does his age or colour matter in this context? Debate can happen about people and their leadership style, (I'm not a fan of Torvalds) but when the first criteria someone sees for criticizing another person is their age, colour, or race, that seems a bit shallow and biased.

I agree with you but that’s not how a lot of people see it these days.

Precisely no one wants to replace Linus Torvalds with a woman or person of color just to have a woman or person of color maintaining the Linux kernel.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by bbulkow »

My thought here. I'm not exactly a disinterested party because I built my own key value store company (possibly the wrong way but that's a different story).

I have a huge respect for Redis, and Antirez, but I have to say my respect doesn't include RedisLabs. They're the ones who started a commercial endevour to capitalize on Redis initially without Antirez, and then later offered him a position. They're the ones that Kyle@Jepsen says is making claims about ACID, not Antirez. I always heard that Clustering was a feature Antirez was very reluctant about.

I hope Redis is, fundamentally, taken away from RedisLabs.

Antirez, you say you want to express through code and open source, and I can't square that with your association with RedisLabs. You've been taking their money for quite a few years now to allow them to put up a billboard saying "the home of redis".

I'm going to stop right there. I've cut my own path through the wild jungle that's Open Source, and it's not yours, and I respect the years you put in to make the product with your vision. I'm sure there are some other first coders of foundational databases on this list, but it's a small club.

As an employee of RedisLabs, I don't think you are free to say what you'd like to say, I hope you follow whatever path does allow you to freely express in the future.

Good luck always.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by jupp0r »

mrkurt wrote: post #163
calpaterson wrote: post #86

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> The most important thing Antirez did, in my opinion, was to say "No" to things. No to new features that didn't make sense. Redis has had tremendous mission creep over the years. It started of course mostly as a volatile cache but I've now seen it also used as a message bus (in three different ways: BLPOP, PUB/SUB and Streams), for service discovery and as a general purpose database - something that Redis Labs (in m…

It didn't really start as a volatile cache, it started as an in memory data structures server. It's useful for all kinds of stuff memcached isn't (and has been since day 1).

This. To me, Redis was always about the rich set of operations you can atomically perform on data without going full ACID. It's very different from a pure cache (although it's probably a good choice if all you need is a cache).

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by jpittis »

antirez wrote: post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

Hey antirez,

Your work that’s had the most impact on me isn’t Redis but kilo! It taught me how to have fun hacking on C back in university. Me and a couple friends cloned the repo and started adding fun features.

Here’s to more 1000 line whatevers! <3

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by cjhanks »

What a beautiful conclusion for him on such a beautiful project. This man clearly loves the art of programming... so much, that he would give up power, just to pursue it again.

Thanks for the wonderful blog posts (over the years) and products.

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