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Re: Firefox 78

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Post by weaksauce »

LocalPCGuy wrote: post #226
weaksauce wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't found firefoxe's dev tools to be much different than chrome's... and you can use chrome for a particular debugging issue or development. I think firefox is a great daily driver.

Been using Firefox daily as my development browser for the last 6 months. Started as an experiment, but stayed because I liked it. The only thing I noticed is that sometimes Chrome's errors in the console are slightly better. I prefer Firefox's HTML/CSS panels, and the CSS Grid/Flex support is generally better. As anything, this comment is a point-of-time comment, they are both iterating rapidly, and when one adds so…

if you use nightly too you get some extra features that might even be better than chrome's.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by akerro »

blendergeek wrote: post #215
akerro wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I said other people will call it spyware, because they don't understand how and it works and what it does.

I think the biggest complaint with Pocket is Mozilla's broken promise to open-source it. After that, we will all be able to check for ourselves whether Pocket is spyware. I look forward to that day, may it come soon.

>After that, we will all be able to check for ourselves whether Pocket is spyware.

Who watches the watchers? How do you know what's running on the servers?

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by Yizahi »

StavrosK wrote: post #78
tgv wrote: post #66

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It's not only ugly: whenever I click in it to edit a URL (pasting in different UUIDs for testing, things like that), the change of font size means I don't know where the selection is. That's so confusing.

I am always very confused by discussions about this bar. For me, when I press ctrl-L, the bar gets slightly bigger borders and the dropdown expands, and that's all that happens. I don't get a font size change or anything. Is my experience not typical? Does anyone know why I don't get the new bar if not? I'm on 78.

I have font change on Win10, v77.0.1 latest. When focused URL text font is enlarged and if you were targeting specific symbol it will be shifted to side by several places.

PS: here is a proof - https://imgur.com/a/AYi99Ht

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by Yizahi »

robotmay wrote: post #48
Yizahi wrote: post #3

Does it still have UglyBar from v77? Seems like that.

I hate the UglyBar so much. I've got a user style to fix it but my god, who thought it was a good idea? It's so much worse and it didn't need doing.

Personally what found even worse is the attitude of an arrogant Firefox developer (Marco), who came to /r/firefox and just outright dismissed any and all concerns, than closed all bugzilla tickets about it and just left subreddit (at least for several days).

It feels like some "genius" manager who brute forced his "brilliant" idea on the team.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by Yizahi »

vvillena wrote: post #27
Yizahi wrote: post #3

Does it still have UglyBar from v77? Seems like that.

Is there any specific thing that makes it ugly? I'm curious because I don't see the ugliness. Since I use Firefox 99% of the time, I just opened Chrome and Edge to check out their address bars. All three are extremely similar. In Chrome and Edge the borders are more rounded, while Firefox opts for a more square look. All three feature a "popup" effect that makes the bar slightly bigger when interacting with it: in Fi…

It hijacks focus at new tab open. It has ugly looking shadow when focused over bookmark bar. It removed "arrow down" button. It replaced history for static top sites in the drop down. It enlarges text font on focus making it harder to quickly select parts. And the last but not least - they had months of beta testing and then still enforced popout animation with ability to disable it, despite negative feedback of multiple users.

PS: I'm not disabling it on principle for now just to see like some people say if get used to it. So far it still annoys me after weeks of usage. It is just bad design and bad decision and FF team can't accept own mistakes, like small children.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by akulbe »

Interesting.

I don't see anything about it in the Release Notes,

but Help > About Firefox would normally offer the latest update.

Mine is saying 77.0.1 is up to date.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by Yizahi »

ChrisSD wrote: post #22
Yizahi wrote: post #3

Does it still have UglyBar from v77? Seems like that.

Can I ask why it's considered "ugly" now but wasn't before? Isn't it just a few pixels bigger?

Plus shadow. And it steals focus on new tab. And it shifts text when selecting. And no history now. It is just dumber and uglier version of the old normal address bar which nobody asked to "improve" this way.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by uallo »

DanCarvajal wrote: post #146
uallo wrote: post #47

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> I still find that choice baffling Why?

Why would I want content recommendations from my browser, especially Firefox? It's an utterly bizarre feature to ad. It didn't make sense for Google to have done it but it especially didn't make sense for Mozilla to play the "me too" game. It's a waste of money and developer resources and frankly shows poor stewardship on the part of management.

Then disable it. Judging from comments in this post, there seem to be numerous people who like it. And given Mozilla owns Pocket and a small amount of revenue is coming from it, what is wrong with pushing it?

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by infogulch »

noisy_boy wrote: post #92

I am a pretty ardent Firefox supporter and prefer it over Chrome but some of the issues are still jarring and really affect the user experience. E.g. this 10 year old bug which I still have to deal with multiple times every month where if you have couple of windows open with one having pinned tabs and close the other one first, the pinned tabs are not restored upon restart: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?i…

Yeah I now quit all FF windows at once with Ctrl+Shift+Q or Menu > Exit, or if I'm closing because Windows is restarting (not uncommon on Win10) I just let Windows close FF and it'll reopen after restart.
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