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Re: Firefox 78

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Post by zzo38computer »

gnud wrote: post #151
jfk13 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry you don't like the new design. Personally, I found it really jarring at first, but by now I don't notice it unless I consciously look for it. Hope you enjoy your unpatched security issues.

I don't mind the design - but the functionality of the bar annoys me to no end. If you try to use a relative domain name (typing webtest01 instead of webtest01.mydomain.com, when your DNS resolves those two to the same address), for some reason Firefox thinks I want to search the web. I don't understand why. Even worse, if you use a full domain name (web.test), and even if you specify a port (web.test:8080), Firefox…

I don't like that either, but on my computer I added a code to make it treat URLs entered in the location bar as relative, so if you just type "web.test" it will try to access the file called "web.test" relative to whatever document is currently open.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by clairity »

abmobi wrote: post #110

Firefox has slowly crawled back into my daily workflow of development as well as general browsing with the 67.0 release mid last year or so, that brought in major performance improvements. Though there is one caveat that bothers me a lot. When auto restoring sessions after I've closed Firefox and launch it the next day, it restores the same tabs, but with the old data (for eg., youtube or twitch live channels / searc…

i prefer this behavior, as i often want to see the "old" version of pages that i had been looking at before and avoid a barrage of network requests at startup. in any case, i'm pretty sure there's an about:config setting to change it.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by jraph »

kleiba wrote: post #29

OT: I would like to write an extension that restores the previous clicking behavior on the title and search bars but I have never written a Firefox extension before. Does anyone know if this kind of functionality change would even be possible with the current extension framework?

I would not expect this. One of the main points of removing the old way of doing extensions was to stop allowing extensions to arbitrarily modify the browser's UI, which was difficult to maintain.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by jfk13 »

ProAm wrote: post #163
jfk13 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry you don't like the new design. Personally, I found it really jarring at first, but by now I don't notice it unless I consciously look for it. Hope you enjoy your unpatched security issues.

Patched but unusable still equal unusable. FF should really decouple security patches from redesign and functional changes. There is no reason to force both.

Throwing around words like "unusable" for a design change that, although you don't like it, millions of people are using successfully doesn't do much for your credibility.

Firefox is developed pretty much "in the open"; you and others are welcome to engage in reasonable discussion about UI (and functional) issues, and make your case for or against a given change. But if you're just going to label it "unusable", I suspect you'll find it hard to be taken seriously.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by nausher81 »

regularfry wrote: post #134
wyoh wrote: post #51

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There also an extension called Sidebery [1][2] which is a lighter alternative to TST. I've found that TST was making my Firefox hang several seconds before loading all my tabs. [1]: https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery [2]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/

There's also an extension whose name I forget (but should be easy enough to find for the sufficiently motivated) which unloads background tabs so they're not taking up resources unless you switch to them. Made a huge difference when I installed it.

There is also the auto-tab discard Extension. Which reportedly uses Native API better. I've seen that compared to other tab suspenders it does keep tabs sticky between sessions. However, I'm not a fan of it's auto-foreground on clicking a tab behavior. I think, The Great Suspender Extension on Chrome handles this better.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-tab-disc...

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by LocalPCGuy »

weaksauce wrote: post #171
needle0 wrote: post #23

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"Unless we support alternatives we really shouldn't complain when they gradually die off in a space that is increasingly coming under the control of giant corporations with bottomless pockets." Exactly this. Sure Firefox sometimes isn't the absolute best in a given characteristic, but it's still a damn good browser overall, and the concern over the encroaching Chromium monoculture is more than enough to keep me using…

I haven't found firefoxe's dev tools to be much different than chrome's... and you can use chrome for a particular debugging issue or development. I think firefox is a great daily driver.

Been using Firefox daily as my development browser for the last 6 months. Started as an experiment, but stayed because I liked it.

The only thing I noticed is that sometimes Chrome's errors in the console are slightly better. I prefer Firefox's HTML/CSS panels, and the CSS Grid/Flex support is generally better. As anything, this comment is a point-of-time comment, they are both iterating rapidly, and when one adds something people like, the other usually pushes it in also.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by dancedar »

akerro wrote: post #11

Pocket is great and totally deserves more promotion. I know this will trigger a lot of people saying it's spyware, I used to think that too, but then I embraced it and it's great for bookmarking, syncthing tabs, reading news as podcasts on mobile etc. It's great.

The open source (apps) raindrop is a pretty good alternative

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by dependenttypes »

batsoupremacy wrote: post #52

one of the reasons why i love firefox? the Tracking protection. it makes webpages faster to load. Cool

I do not get this. You would run a blocker anyway, the tracking protection is just a half-assed measure for these not bothering to install such an addon.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by ProAm »

jfk13 wrote: post #224
ProAm wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patched but unusable still equal unusable. FF should really decouple security patches from redesign and functional changes. There is no reason to force both.

Throwing around words like "unusable" for a design change that, although you don't like it, millions of people are using successfully doesn't do much for your credibility. Firefox is developed pretty much "in the open"; you and others are welcome to engage in reasonable discussion about UI (and functional) issues, and make your case for or against a given change. But if you're just going to label it "unusable", I sus…

> millions of people are using successfully doesn't do much for your credibility

Millions of people are using it because they are forced to after an update. I do not care what others think about my 'credibility' on a forum where Im sharing my opinion. I find it unusable. Mozilla is fighting every day for relevancy and to maintain as much market share as possible (and I say this as loving FF and being a user for over a decade). They did this to mimic Chrome and hope people find it similar enough to not mind switching. I get it my opinion is not the opinion of everyone on earth nor do I expect it to, I still find the new address bar unusable.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by techntoke »

andreaorru wrote: post #189
techntoke wrote: post #178

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Mozilla has continually put Linux last in nearly everything they do. Hardware acceleration on Linux has been absent but works on Chromium. Wayland support is broken with noticeable artifacts but works on Chromium. In their recent VPN announcement there is no support for Linux. In their password manager announcement revamp they don't support Linux. Why would I support a company that doesn't put open source first?

Hardware acceleration works just fine for me on Linux (granted, I had to flip a few values in about:config). And all the Wayland glitches have been fixed months ago.

It wasn't even enabled until this release for video. It has been working on Chromium for over 2 years, if not longer.

The Wayland issues have improved after trying it out just now, but I still often get artifacts when resizing and switching between fullscreen and split screen.

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