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Re: Firefox 78

#191
My Firefox's About page says I'm running Firefox 77.0.1, and that my browser is up-to-date.

Is it because I'm running OS X 10.9, and they're planning to migrate me to ESR but the ESR build isn't out yet or something? Because I'm on 10.9, and I know my system is vulnerable, I always try to update to the latest release very quickly.

Re: Firefox 78

#192

Wow, they finally got around to fixing a certificate-handling issue. That must have closed a bunch of decade-old bugzilla issues. Now if they could just get around to supporting intermediate CA certificates and all of the Windows certificate stores, not just a couple of randomly chosen ones, that would be swell. Also, IPv6 support in PAC files would be nice. If any Mozilla employees come to YC News: Unimportant-seemi…

> Unimportant-seeming stuff like this is why Chrome crushed Firefox in the Enterprise. This isn't why. At work I deal with two different vendors who refuse to troubleshoot any issues with their products on anything but Chrome. To this day, the issue has never been a browser compatibility issue, but we have to actually temporarily give the user a Chromium-based browser just to get a modicum of decent support these day…

> This isn't why. At work I deal with two different vendors who refuse to troubleshoot any issues with their products on anything but Chrome.

This is the case now but a decade ago, in the period the original poster was talking about, it was because of things like what they mentioned: Mozilla needed some attention to detail on those tickets, a robust MSI install package, and a polished policy deployment system. Lots of large shops deployed it but it wasn't loved because there was always some wart to work around.

Re: Firefox 78

#193

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With this release

Oh that's wonderful. I'll get back some of the CPU of my new computer. I've pretty much have a core dedicated to it.

It's slightly more complex as there are some hardware/software combinations that don't work. This article gives some good steps to make sure it's enabled:

https://mastransky.wordpress.com/2020/06/03/firefox-on-fedor...

I've also had to disable media.ffvpx.enabled in previous versions to enable VA-API for more than just VP9 (I haven't yet been able to verify if it's needed for this one).

Re: Firefox 78

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For a similar reason, I took some advice years ago (after the last mosaic virus scare) to eat multi-grain bread even though it's not entirely my favorite. Without demand, supply dries up. Without supply, the knowledge base dries up. When the shit hits the fan you have to start over from first principles. And if the 'shit' is someone flexing their muscles, then the world looks like extortion while people scramble to p…

I find multi-grain bread just awful to eat, but I'm at the point where I'm suspecting that, if I ate it exclusively for a while, I would forget that other bread is better and accept multi-grain as the new normal. It would certainly be healthier at least.

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Re: Firefox 78

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Sorry you don't like the new design. Personally, I found it really jarring at first, but by now I don't notice it unless I consciously look for it. Hope you enjoy your unpatched security issues.

Patched but unusable still equal unusable. FF should really decouple security patches from redesign and functional changes. There is no reason to force both.

There is no reason to continue to support old versions for a few users only.

Re: Firefox 78

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Sorry you don't like the new design. Personally, I found it really jarring at first, but by now I don't notice it unless I consciously look for it. Hope you enjoy your unpatched security issues.

Patched but unusable still equal unusable. FF should really decouple security patches from redesign and functional changes. There is no reason to force both.

Maintaining security patches separately basically means branching the code and is quite a bit more work. I suppose ESR is the closest to what you want.

Re: Firefox 78

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1: as you’ve said, the quality of such completion depends on habits ; if you’re just shifting to the browser, it doesn’t have the full details with which to do good completion. 2: strongly disagree; I use Firefox, and on the odd occasion where I’m doing something in Chrome, it drives me insane with things like its CSS editing experience, because it does things in what I find to be a much less native-feeling way, wher…

> 1: as you’ve said, the quality of such completion depends on habits; if you’re just shifting to the browser, it doesn’t have the full details with which to do good completion. i've used firefox ever since galeon bit the dust (or maybe since epiphany switched to webkit). it knows my habits. but it still suggests urls i don't want instead of just offering to switch to an open tab. (frankly, i want open tabs to match…

I find it a mixed bag—if it showed all open tab matches first, it often wouldn’t show history items that I care about. But overall, yeah, I’d probably like it to be a bit more eager to show active tabs. Especially if it’s suggesting a URL I have open, as you say.

FYI, you can filter it to search only open tabs with %: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/address-bar-autocomplet...

Re: Firefox 78

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It's not only ugly: whenever I click in it to edit a URL (pasting in different UUIDs for testing, things like that), the change of font size means I don't know where the selection is. That's so confusing.

I am always very confused by discussions about this bar. For me, when I press ctrl-L, the bar gets slightly bigger borders and the dropdown expands, and that's all that happens. I don't get a font size change or anything. Is my experience not typical? Does anyone know why I don't get the new bar if not? I'm on 78.

Perhaps it's a macOS thing.

Re: Firefox 78

#199

"We've disabled old TLS connections and insecure cipher-schemes, so websites which used to work will now display an error" doesn't really sound like an improvement for the user. I'd rather see a warning detailing the situation and asking me if I want to proceed (maybe I don't care about encryption when visiting the particular site).

There has been a bypassable error for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 for several months. There have been error messages in devtools. In October of 2018 the browser vendors jointly announced that this change was coming. [1][2] This is happening in coordination with Chrome. The sites that are affected by this have had nearly 2 years to sort out their upgrade to TLS 1.2 or 1.3. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/10/15/removing…

> The sites that are affected by this have had nearly 2 years to sort out their upgrade to TLS 1.2 or 1.3.

... or are hardware appliances with a management interface, segregated on an internal VLAN, that will never be updated, but which were helpfully "forward thinking" enough to force HTTPS.

Re: Firefox 78

#200

So I'm on macOS using Safari for web browsing, chrome for work (web app + backend). I'm on the younger side so chrome has been omnipresent. I do not mean to understate the importance of privacy in the modern web, so don't misunderstand my question. Why would someone, as a developer and a user, want to use Firefox over Safari (mostly) and Chrome (for work).

> I do not mean to understate the importance of privacy in the modern web

> Why would someone, as a developer and a user, want to use Firefox over Safari (mostly) and Chrome (for work).

You wrote the answer before the question. Safari might have users' best interest at heart, but anything that stops an advertising company's browser from dominating the market is a good thing.

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