Just wanted to inform audience here that TikTok is blocked in China. [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...
TikTok app to stop accessing user clipboards after being caught in the act
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#62This is so ridiculous. Google Maps accesses the clipboard. Try it out: copy an address and open maps. So do Facebook and Instagram, I’m sure. The level of paranoia in the Valley is astounding.
The valley is the entire reason why we're paranoid: there's huge precedent for this kind of access being used for nefarious purposes.
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#63This is just an overblown yellow-peril panic, right? How does any app paste? By "accessing the user clipboards". How does the chrome omnibox do "text you copied"? By "accessing the user clipboards".
It is the OS that should transfer the contents of the clipboard to an app, when the user tells it to do so, and not the other way around. The content of my clipboard shouldn't be any app's business until I decide to paste.
To be fair, I don't think the programmers implementing system APIs expected them to be (ab)used like this.
Now system API developers have to view downstream app developers in an adversarial manner...
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair enough, we don't have any of the known spyware - TikTok was the only one. I was already questioning the value of TikTok before it became well known that its spyware. I won't tell you about the week of crying because someone was calling my 8 year old a 'viscogirl' after seeing something on Tiktok about it. It really looks like toxic garbage to me.
You sure it wasn't "VSCO girl"?
I guess you know better than me, whatever.
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#65The security implications of allowing communications on a platform that is subject to the absolute control of a foreign government, seems like a very very bad idea. That can be a lesson learned the easy way or the hard way.
I honestly think we give Chinese apps too much equal footing. In about 5-8 years, when China has insane surveillance network around the world (they already have), this comment is going to sound the most sensible thing to do - blanket ban any application developed and served by the CCP or similar government.
People teeter-totter about righteousness and freedom of choice, but IMO we need to stop feeding the CCP with more power/$$$/influence ... NOW ... Freedom of choice is great when there is fairness and democratic values built in, when the government isn't on some Han-supremacy drug and expansionist motives.
Someone will inevitably respond with whataboutism and smear American companies into the mix as if they're expressing their understanding of hypocracy and one-sidedness. It is supposed to be one-sided. The west offered two-way street which China declined to walk on. So, now all bets are off. Equivalency with the western apps/services/goods is no longer a valid counter argument.
On fair, just, and rational grounds - I am a progressive. In unfair, unjust and irrational waters - I am a conservative.
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#66Most of the anti-TikTok comments that have emerged recently are beyond hysterical. We are arguing about China using this app as a primary nexus of intelligence gathering, in a world where they already have the US government’s entire OPM database?[1] A lot of apps are doing the stupid clipboard detection thing. As others have commented, there’s reasons for this that range from spam detection to link shortening. It’s l…
They'll use whatever data they can get their hands on.
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#67Just wanted to inform audience here that TikTok is blocked in China. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...
Interesting, is this more proof that the Chinese gov't is using it as a spying app?
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#68Great to see another layer of transparency in ios14. Bit I wonder why everyone talking about one specific app? I see a huge bias towards TikTok in headlines "iOS 14 caught TikTok and other apps spying on the clipboard" [0] "iOS 14 beta shows apps like TikTok still spy on your iPhone" [1] There a bunch of apps like VICE, Google News, WSJ that has been caught doing exactly the same. [2] I may find the explanation why T…
Just because other apps do that is no excuse for bad behaviour. Almost all apps get flack for bad behaviour. Tiktok is the newest popular thing on the block and it is expected to be widely covered. Honestly it is okay to discuss the bar behaviours of an app without blaming other apps.
Smh, a newly registered account.
> Honestly it is okay to discuss the bar behaviours of an app without blaming other apps.
OP explained the reason for doing so, how can we just discuss the problem without checking the cause?
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#69The security implications of allowing communications on a platform that is subject to the absolute control of a foreign government, seems like a very very bad idea. That can be a lesson learned the easy way or the hard way.
I honestly think we give Chinese apps too much equal footing. In about 5-8 years, when China has insane surveillance network around the world (they already have), this comment is going to sound the most sensible thing to do - blanket ban any application developed and served by the CCP or similar government. People teeter-totter about righteousness and freedom of choice, but IMO we need to stop feeding the CCP with mo…
The CCP has already shown they’re willing to abuse TikTok to stir unrest in the USA, you aren’t even making a theoretical argument. I’m a lot more worried about China than Russia, when it comes to bad behavior by state actors.
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#70The security implications of allowing communications on a platform that is subject to the absolute control of a foreign government, seems like a very very bad idea. That can be a lesson learned the easy way or the hard way.
> a platform that is subject to the absolute control of a foreign government
I'm sure you would argue that Google, MS and Apple are completely independent of the US government.