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Re: Firefox 78

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Post by gnud »

jfk13 wrote: post #129
ProAm wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This new bar is why I stopped upgrading FF. with 76 you could change it with about:firefox options, then in 77 you had to use userChrome.css I got tired of trying to find a workaround for a piece of utility software. I shouldnt have to relearn functionality every minor release of a browser. I love FF, but Im sticking with 76 for the foreseeable future.

Sorry you don't like the new design. Personally, I found it really jarring at first, but by now I don't notice it unless I consciously look for it. Hope you enjoy your unpatched security issues.

I don't mind the design - but the functionality of the bar annoys me to no end.

If you try to use a relative domain name (typing webtest01 instead of webtest01.mydomain.com, when your DNS resolves those two to the same address), for some reason Firefox thinks I want to search the web. I don't understand why.

Even worse, if you use a full domain name (web.test), and even if you specify a port (web.test:8080), Firefox thinks you want to search. Those are valid domains that resolve on my network.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by clairity »

izolate wrote: post #96
noisy_boy wrote: post #92

I am a pretty ardent Firefox supporter and prefer it over Chrome but some of the issues are still jarring and really affect the user experience. E.g. this 10 year old bug which I still have to deal with multiple times every month where if you have couple of windows open with one having pinned tabs and close the other one first, the pinned tabs are not restored upon restart: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?i…

Agreed. I'm tracking a 7 year old bug to support ` ` that's probably an easy win, given the foundation work is completed by supporting other date input formats. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888320

yah, i would love it if mozilla focused on all kinds of form controls, bringing them to parity styling-wise, adding more hooks for things like validation/more complex interactions, adding common controls (like month), etc.

basically, they should look at the various web ui toolkits like bootstrap and integrate all the controls and behaviors common across all of them. it would be such a major win for developers and users.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by findjashua »

defnotashton2 wrote: post #149

I want to use Firefox but find the plug in system to be unusable and therefore prefer a chromium based solution. I have 30+extensions, many developer based, many for privacy and blocking, and many new ones to prevent sites from dictating my behavior like blocking copy and pasting of text. But the most important one is a plug in manager that allows me to to toggle on/off individual plug-ins from the sidebar with two c…

you can set keyboard shortcuts to toggle the add-ons. Yes, you do have to go through the single page as you mentioned, but it's a one-time thing.

Personally, I can't leave Firefox due to:

1. Sidebery (on Desktop)

2. Night-mode (on Mobile)

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by recursive »

satori99 wrote: post #107
noisy_boy wrote: post #92

I am a pretty ardent Firefox supporter and prefer it over Chrome but some of the issues are still jarring and really affect the user experience. E.g. this 10 year old bug which I still have to deal with multiple times every month where if you have couple of windows open with one having pinned tabs and close the other one first, the pinned tabs are not restored upon restart: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?i…

Oh wow, I hate this one so much. I try to avoid opening multiple FF windows because I always close the wrong one last.

If you're closing all of them, you can just use Ctrl+Shift+Q.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by agumonkey »

Santosh83 wrote: post #12

Great. Unlike many, I walk my talk and have always used Firefox since more than a decade with no exceptions. The very commonly given reason that DevTools are better in Chrome still doesn't stop one from using Firefox for all other general browsing. Unless we support alternatives we really shouldn't complain when they gradually die off in a space that is increasingly coming under the control of giant corporations with…

I had relapses but I've been on firefox 99% since about around the quantum release and some google privacy / app killing / browser upgrades. I felt firefox was less a social platform product and more a nice tool.

I used to miss chrome but I barely think about it nowadays.

And as usual, kudos to all mozillians.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by agumonkey »

clairity wrote: post #152
izolate wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I'm tracking a 7 year old bug to support ` ` that's probably an easy win, given the foundation work is completed by supporting other date input formats. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888320

yah, i would love it if mozilla focused on all kinds of form controls, bringing them to parity styling-wise, adding more hooks for things like validation/more complex interactions, adding common controls (like month), etc. basically, they should look at the various web ui toolkits like bootstrap and integrate all the controls and behaviors common across all of them. it would be such a major win for developers and use…

Maybe Mozilla should stop the features and branding for a little while and make a revamp sprint ?

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by interfixus »

So ... "Close tabs to the right" and "Close other tabs" moved from top level context menu to submenu "Close Multiple Tabs".

This is the kind of ungraceful UI degradation which would send me packing if there was anywhere else decent to go.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by Jap2-0 »

snide wrote: post #25

I recently tried to move to Firefox (again). I try to to this every couple years. I run into the same three blockers every time. 1. The omnibar completion isn't as good. Chrome figures out where I go pretty regularly, and autocompletes extremely well based upon habits. 2. The dev tools aren't as good. I mostly work in the frontend, and simple things like how you write css overwrites with tab completion is just not as…

> 3. I often run with lots of tabs. Although Firefox lets you make tabs smaller, it's default method of "scrolling" tabs isn't as nice as chrome infinite method.

At a certain point Chrome will just disappear your tabs. They'll be loaded in the browser - there's just no way to access them. Scrolling in Firefox (especially with a mousewheel) just feels so natural and makes dealing with large amounts of tabs so much easier almost all of the time (with a potential exception right after Firefox starts scrolling tabs, but they're all visible on Chrome - but that can still be hit or miss).

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by jhatax »

StyloBill wrote: post #112
wincent wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wanted to switch to Firefox, but after several weeks the thing that pushed me back was janky scrolling. It seems like a trivial thing, but it absolutely drove me first up the wall, and then back to Chrome.

Yeah I try FF every 6 months to see if the scrolling has improved and each and every time I go back to using Chrome after a few days. I wouldn't say it's bad but it's noticeably worse than Chrome and I just can't get over it. Exact same thing for FF on Android.

Uncheck "Use smooth scrolling" in preferences to see if that makes a difference to your scrolling experience. FWIW, I have "Use autoscrolling" checked; most, if not all, websites scroll fine on my MacBook Pro and iMac. I cannot speak to the scrolling behavior on Windows.

Re: Firefox 78

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Post by gganley »

So I'm on macOS using Safari for web browsing, chrome for work (web app + backend). I'm on the younger side so chrome has been omnipresent. I do not mean to understate the importance of privacy in the modern web, so don't misunderstand my question. Why would someone, as a developer and a user, want to use Firefox over Safari (mostly) and Chrome (for work).
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