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The End of the Redis Adventure

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Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

#112
Thank you for writing this antirez, I think I'll remember it as a statement of some principles that I like to think I aspire to also: like many people here I guess, I would describe myself as someone who loves writing software, and in my own small way I've also tried to avoid being dragged into team/project management because that is not what I seek out of a lifetime involved with code. And, yes, I do like to think of writing code as a creative activity / form of expression. I also need to study your C code more! Perhaps I'll look at the early redis commits.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "old white guy in charge of Linux" Erhmmm, why does his age or colour matter in this context? Debate can happen about people and their leadership style, (I'm not a fan of Torvalds) but when the first criteria someone sees for criticizing another person is their age, colour, or race, that seems a bit shallow and biased.

I agree. Isn't this overt racism, sexism, ageism, etc? > Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group

Of course it is, but it's the kind of bigotry nowadays some people evangelize as good (by redefining racism), and what the twitter mob encourages.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

#115
post #3

I would love a story on "I don’t like much what the underground programming world became in recent years" What could he mean? What underground programming world is he talking about?

Probably the roving mobs on Twitter who occasionally brigade project issue trackers and mailing lists. Check out the master/slave post he wrote a while back. Or just the toxic nature of some open source communities, especially on Reddīt for whatever reason.

Replying to myself to highlight antirez's own comment upthread:

>Yep it's the open source, and in general the "spontaneous" development world, that happens without big money, just for hacking. This "place" once was kinda free and not observed much. Now you can't say anything, if you don't respect a good practice (LOL) people yell at you on Twitter. Even saying that commenting is a good idea is a problem. Not cool.

So yeah, pretty much twitter.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

#116
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The most important thing Antirez did, in my opinion, was to say "No" to things. No to new features that didn't make sense. Redis has had tremendous mission creep over the years. It started of course mostly as a volatile cache but I've now seen it also used as a message bus (in three different ways: BLPOP, PUB/SUB and Streams), for service discovery and as a general purpose database - something that Redis Labs (in m…

Memcache is what saying no to changing the use-case looks like. Redis is what saying no to changing the architecture in order to implement features looks like. Redis has stayed the same, architecturally , from the beginning: it’s a keyspace where the values are arbitrary in-memory objects owned by their keys, and where commands resolve to synchronous function-calls against the objects (or ref-cells) at those keys. An…

Would you mind elaborating on some of those 'fun' items - part of the problem of being aware of certain technologies without really 'following' them is understanding why they change.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was also intrigued by that sentence. I expect it means (open source) programming that happens outside of of big corps. But I'm unsure.

Yep it's the open source, and in general the "spontaneous" development world, that happens without big money, just for hacking. This "place" once was kinda free and not observed much. Now you can't say anything, if you don't respect a good practice (LOL) people yell at you on Twitter. Even saying that commenting is a good idea is a problem. Not cool.

Lowering the barriers to open-source contribution has allowed in people who have absolutely no business being there. If you have standards, you get accused of gate-keeping.

Thanks for mentioning the T- website specifically, it takes a lot of courage to call it out directly these days, because all it takes is one of them with a lot of followers and then you get swamped with hate. It's fucking unreal man.

There's a ton of us down here programming and having fun, free of politics and bullshit. Look forward to seeing you (again).

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

#119
post #78

Ok, so many thank you here, thanks! It's very nice to read the comments here. But I hope to interact more on HN, since basically the idea is to write more blog posts, write more OSS software too. Just totally random :D I'll just do whatever every morning I want to do for a long time. Then maybe I'll find a new long term interest.

Thanks so much!

I did have a post that basically said "I relate," but it wasn't popular (I guess it came across as self-promoting. My apologies).

In any case, I can relate, and completely support you in your future endeavors. I am not a redis user, but I have seen nothing but good said about it.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

#120
While a very different circumstance, the pull between "I write code in order to express myself" and being an "artist" vs. "useful" and the drudgery of maintenance reminds me of famous rubyist _why and why he stopped doing stuff in the community.

https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/05/why-a-tale-of-a-pos...

https://kev.town/2013/04/30/why-did-why-the-lucky-stiff-quit...

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