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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#901

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>In my own opinion this was a long time coming, and Reddit has long since shown that the original hands-off model is woefully inadequate in the face of communities that are willing to expend the effort to argue continuously in bad faith, organize to influence and control opinion in other communities, and attack the platform itself in their campaigns for hateful speech. Just ask /r/BlackLadies if you think these users…

Let’s try the opposite argument then: let’s give these fringe groups more prominent placement in the Reddit ecosystem. Surely it’s better to give them more of a voice so we can know what they have to say, than letting them put in the effort to make their voices heard, right? Maybe we should donate money to these groups to help them congregate in one place so we can easier keep an eye on them too. You don’t sell walki…

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that removing visibility into their motivations, by pushing the bulk of their activity in their insular communities offsite, allows them to more easily blend in and use less extreme language to push their disgusting viewpoints and manipulate conversations onsite.

Essentially it reduces the ability to detect bad actors, is what I'm saying.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Could you expand on objectively what you experienced that you felt was hate?

Hate is just a "word" used to express human emotion to another human. Someone can view "hate" differently because they've not experienced the emotion of another that has defined hate from their own personal unique life events. In this world I've encountered people that truly hate others so very much. They wish what they hate didn't exist and they honestly believe the world would be better if it happened to become tru…

There's a disconnect here I feel. If one chooses to refer to biological females as female, and biological males as male (and perhaps approach other situations ad hoc) then it seems you would say "this is trans hate" but the person practicing that behaviour doesn't [necessarily] hate the people they're referring to.

Indeed the person who uses biological identifiers seems often to be the hated person, a person who identified themselves as trans might hate them for not going along with that identity; but the person who is choosing how they personally identify others would in this situation often be labelled as committing hate-speech. IMO it's disagreement, not hate.

Compare the situation to that of the relatively few people who have a body dismorphia such that they believe themselves to be felines (cats) in a human body. They're no less sincere. But I'd still, without hate, refer to them as humans.

Those who disagree are surely entitled to take that position, regardless of whether someone else chooses to consider that hurtful, or do you disagree?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

I run a video game clan with a fairly active discord channel -- the stance I've taken is: there are no rules beyond: 1. nothing illegal (includes cheating at games) 2. no racism / homophobia / transphobia 3. no harassing other members 4. everyone has different beliefs and come from different parts of the world -- if you are offended, ask the offender to stop, otherwise see a mod so far there are around 50 people in t…

In a small group your social relationship with every other person matters, as you're going to be seeing them again, and you're also more familiar with them as a person. It's kind of like being rude to someone living in a small town vs a city. In the town being rude to someone might follow you for years, whereas you'll probably never see someone you're rude to in a city ever again.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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>Isn’t /r/politics completely one sided fake news to prop up the democrats??? /r/politics is how I imagine the "Two Minutes Hate" from 1984. A complete circle-jerk that has infested many of the main subreddits. /r/pics, /r/nextfuckinglevel, /r/publicfreakout are rather outposts of /r/politics these days. No wonder, when a small clique of politically aligned mods controls the major subreddits. Even /r/askhistorians jo…

Damn, I can't believe they took a non-neutral stance on extrajudicial murder of black people. Crazy stuff.

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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I see someone isn’t a fan of Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement. What’s your evidence that left wing violence exceeds right wing? By the by, a lot of the “left wing” violence recently was caused by right wing militia “boogaloo” people. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-kill...

A salon.com piece isn't exactly a credible source. Salon.com is an extremely biased leftist online medium. There is also no organic 'Boogaloo movement'. The general consensus inside right wing circles (chans & discord) is that the MSM here attempts to create a bogeyman out of thin air to explain away the intrinsic violence of the racial BLM movement and these revolutionary 'Antifa' types. exercising the cognitive dis…

While Trump retweets someone shouting “white power” and invites the leader of a country that puts bounties on the heads of us military to the G7.

That said, new account, total lack of evidence, and ad hominem attacks against any evidence provided.

My guess is that you are either a low information monoculture news consumer or a paid provocateur.

If you are the former, well.. “ And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. ”

And if you are the latter, I hope they pay well, and you remain blissfully unaware of the most common outcome, historically, of people in your role.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#906
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> What other types of violence are there? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_abuse for starters. https://www.who.int/violenceprevention/approach/definition/e... - "This typology distinguishes four modes in which violence may be inflicted: physical; sexual; and psychological attack; and deprivation."

That is a nonstandard and confusing use of the term.

It's because it's an ideological cudgel. It's non-standard, strange to the vast majority, and feels extremely dangerous to those who are versed in history. If words are violence... the sky is the limit in terms of restrictions to speech.

It's nonstandard and confusing and shall always remain as such.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#907

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

Reddit was a smaller community back then, and just like the article implies, smaller communities are easier to manage and of generally higher quality overall

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#908
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> The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. Yea, I gotta say, having to previously deal with r/The_Donald brigades on another large subreddit was incredibly annoying and depressing. Can't speak to spreading fake news, but massive influxes of r/The_Donald users spamming truly vile stuff in an ostensibly non-political sub really sucked (as a moderator,…

Isn’t /r/politics completely one sided fake news to prop up the democrats???

No. I think there are two separate camps within the Democrats, with very little overlap. Progressives on the far left, and centrists. Think Sanders vs. Biden, for example. And /r/politics is completely dedicated to propping up the progressives.

To be fair, I don't think it's filled with fake news. It's filled completely with progressive-biased, one sided interpretation of actual news events.

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/r/ConsumeProduct was antisemtic? I never saw that in the posts of theirs that made the front page. It was always memes about over-consumption, they might make fun of disposable make-up wipes for example ("And when you're done, just throw it away!" cue gallery yelling in a robotic voice: CONSUME PRODUCT ). Genuinely curious what the link to antisemitism is. Is the thought that consumerism = big business, and big busi…

I don't know how common it was, but I found this in the first comment section I looked: > Could it be the Chosenbergs? Although a small group, they seem to control the majority of US record labels, as well as the news outlets, the pharmaceutical companies, the bank institutions, the pornography industry, the entertainment industry, ect. (9 points, replying to "I wonder who runs these record labels?" which was setting…

Comment sections always have some garbage in them. At least there's a report button that does something.

I visit a number of conservative and libertarian discussion forums and the "blame the jews" conspiracy has completely lost its steam. Don't get me wrong I can see how it's offensive and unwelcoming to jewish people but I just don't see the same level of commitment to the idea that some secret cabal of jews run the world or run America as I used to, just random remarks.

On the other hand it could be these are the same people who were previously writing theses on the matter and they've actually been effectively silenced and only drop hints at the idea anymore.

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>Being racist, misogynist, or calling to violence is not an opinion I agree, the anti-white racism and misandry which has become so commonplace under the disguise of 'anti-racism' and feminism has to end.

On principle yes. But I don't know where you live where this is commonplace, do you really see that in your daily life in the real world? There are misandrist feminists, but look further than Twitter drama, most feminists in real life are pretty compassionate with men. For example the concept of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity despite what you may think is mostly about psychological distress and suffe…

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