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The End of the Redis Adventure

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Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by pjmlp »

aboringusername wrote: post #54
eric_b wrote: post #50

So they're moving to a new "community based", "light governance" model. [1] There are plenty of problems with BDFL-style projects, but I think there are a lot of advantages too. Redis is unique in my experience in that it works the way you'd expect - it doesn't cause outages, it is fast, and it has a vanishingly small number of gotchas. The feature set is well curated and for the most part fits together cohesively. T…

It's an interesting proposition. Whether it's Python, Redis, Laravel or Linux itself, a lot of software projects have been driven primarily by singular people and their decisions which shape the project over a period of time. One example that was mentioned in this thread was the whole "master" thing going on. Is Torvalds really going to get involved in that? Most likely no, and that's a decision he's free to make. I…

You already see this happening, on the IoT world there are plenty of competing FOSS OS clones, some of them POSIX based, common to all of them is the use of non-copyleft licenses.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by raverbashing »

justaguyhere wrote: post #5

I would rather be remembered as a bad artist than a good programmer Takes a rare person to say this, made me smile :)

Sounds like a bit of Italian culture leaking into that phrase

But don't worry Antirez, Redis is far from a bad work of art, quite the contrary.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by antirez »

cies wrote: post #40
koolba wrote: post #4

@antirez - Thank you for Redis! It's been a joy to use across so many projects. > However I never wanted to be a software maintainer. And nothing say that you have to be. There's this perverted view that anytime someone creates a popular FOSS project, they need to dedicate every waking minute to maintaining it. That's neither economically feasible nor psychologically reasonable. > Redis was the most stressful thing I…

I was also intrigued by that sentence. I expect it means (open source) programming that happens outside of of big corps. But I'm unsure.

Yep it's the open source, and in general the "spontaneous" development world, that happens without big money, just for hacking. This "place" once was kinda free and not observed much. Now you can't say anything, if you don't respect a good practice (LOL) people yell at you on Twitter. Even saying that commenting is a good idea is a problem. Not cool.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by amelius »

koolba wrote: post #4

@antirez - Thank you for Redis! It's been a joy to use across so many projects. > However I never wanted to be a software maintainer. And nothing say that you have to be. There's this perverted view that anytime someone creates a popular FOSS project, they need to dedicate every waking minute to maintaining it. That's neither economically feasible nor psychologically reasonable. > Redis was the most stressful thing I…

> What is "underground programming world"?

The programming world that nobody else sees.

Everybody uses shiny FOSS tools, and some even make big $ using them, but nobody wonders where they come from and how much pain went into building them.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by tuananh »

entropie wrote: post #58
binarymax wrote: post #15

HN hugged to death. Here's the snapshot on archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200630130517/http://antirez.co...

I actually wonder how many request/s one gets from being on the top of HN.

not very high

a previous post of mine got 500 points and stay #1 for a few hours.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22410448

traffic from it looks like this

https://tuananh.net/2020/03/02/traffic-from-top-post-on-hack...

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by smoyer »

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #60
smoyer wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read it twice trying to figure out why you were invoking @dang. In any case, I've had the same experience with only two programs - CouchDB and Redis.

Dang is a word here, not a handle: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dang

It's been a word for a long time ... we used that when we were kids (at least in earshot of our parents). Searching for "dang" in Algolia results in (by a quick count) more than 80% of the results being for @dang (the person/handle) rather than the perjorative use.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by sph »

eric_b wrote: post #50

So they're moving to a new "community based", "light governance" model. [1] There are plenty of problems with BDFL-style projects, but I think there are a lot of advantages too. Redis is unique in my experience in that it works the way you'd expect - it doesn't cause outages, it is fast, and it has a vanishingly small number of gotchas. The feature set is well curated and for the most part fits together cohesively. T…

> There are plenty of problems with BDFL-style projects, but I think there are a lot of advantages too.

BDFL governance is extremely underrated in the opensource world. People attribute the success of the Linux kernel to its open contribution style, but I will argue that Linux is successful because there's a dictator at the top that enforces a direction, a long term goal, and most importantly, says NO.

Community based governance is a direct cause of that jwz's Cascade of Attention-Deficit problem one can find all over the open source world, especially Linux desktop related.

Re: The End of the Redis Adventure

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Post by JosefAssad »

jpxw wrote: post #45

The fact that one person can (mostly on their own) create a tool as widely-used and respected as Redis is very inspirational to me. Good luck for the future!

If you flip that around, it's possible that being driven by one man was a contributing factor to redis' success.

Design by committee and all that.

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