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Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by kjuhygthuj »

anonymous246 wrote: post #25
gaius wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it must be more complex and subtle than that. Isn't India the home of the Kama Sutra? Like, if any country can claim to be the world experts on sex, it's India, they even beat the Dutch.

Kama Sutra is about 2000 years old in the current form, according to Wikipedia 2 CE. To put this in perspective, this predates the Muslim/Mongol invasions by about 1000 years, British invasion/colonization by 1700 years etc. Societies change.

Didn't you study history (or at least the Indian version)?

The Indians welcomed the muslims because although they were happy playing sittars and doing yoga they missed contact with the wider world and so welcomed the rich ethnic diversity of the mughul empire and then lived happily together in peace and love until the British deliberately caused religous strife in 1946 by forcing the muslims to move to Pakistan.

See also - how native american tribes lived in peace and harmony together and at one with nature until the British arrived.

Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by bluishgreen »

acangiano wrote: post #20

Google trends for sex and porn: http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex%2Cporn&ctab=0&geo... Indians are, unsurprisingly, very much into it.

You are just using words which non-native english speakers tend to think about when wanting to search for sex on the internet (which are sex and porn).

Try sex, blowjob http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex%2Cblowjob&ctab=0&...

I am not saying that I have proved that the US/Canadians are waay more horny than people in other parts of the world. I am just pointing to why this kind of goog charts don't work while arguing.

Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by smackay »

xtacy wrote: post #19
gaius wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it must be more complex and subtle than that. Isn't India the home of the Kama Sutra? Like, if any country can claim to be the world experts on sex, it's India, they even beat the Dutch.

I think the issue is this: India has been historically openminded about sex, before the British rule. The current situation, i.e., a social taboo to even talk about sex are remnants of the British rule in India: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_sex_in_India#Colonia...

India was under British influence and control for 250 years. It seems a little strange that the Victorian Era which lasted for 70 years and the more conservation period only 50 years or so had such a strong influence on such a large and diverse country. Moreso because the Victorian era was preceded and succeeded by rather liberal periods in British society which were by Victorian standards, positively scandalous. Why did Indian society also undergo similar periods of liberalisation if British rule was so influential. Perhaps Indian society was already conservative and the Victorians simply re-inforced this.

The wikipedia articule seems to use revisionist language and lacks sufficient references so I would be interested if there any historians present with better information.

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Post by jedsmith »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #28

Viewing this together with recent American moves to seize DNS listings for sites that our government doesn't like, how quickly will alternatives to the standard DNS system be sprouting up?

They can sprout up all they want. Adoption, however, is another matter, and I'm fairly confident in predicting that they will never be adopted. Alternate roots have been tried multiple times, and they've never gotten any traction beyond nerds like you and me.

The seizures you speak of weren't a failure of the DNS, either. They were the failure of registrars caving to pressure. The delegation of the domains did not change, GoDaddy (one instance I can think of) simply took control of the zone. Amusingly, everybody turned around and blamed ICANN as if they have anything to do with it, further proving that there are scant few people who understand how critical systems of the Internet work.

Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by JoachimSchipper »

gaius wrote: post #16
dimmuborgir wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Muslim countries have higher birth rate than India.

If this is true, why the downvotes? If it's not, post some counter-evidence please.

The comment should arguably cite something, and the mention of "Muslim" suggests a less-than-neutral look at the data.

Looking at both http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_de... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_de..., India is not near the top. The top isn't characterized by being muslim, either. [EDIT: was "Neither are "muslim" states, though - with the exception of Afghanistan, the top "scorers" are all African."]

Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by gaius »

JoachimSchipper wrote: post #35
gaius wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is true, why the downvotes? If it's not, post some counter-evidence please.

The comment should arguably cite something , and the mention of "Muslim" suggests a less-than-neutral look at the data. Looking at both http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_de... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_de... , India is not near the top. The top isn't characterized by being muslim, either. [EDIT: was "Neither are "muslim" states, though - with the exception o…

"Muslim" and "African" are not mutually exclusive! Top of that list is Niger and Wikipaedia says:

Islam, spread from North Africa beginning in the 10th century, has greatly shaped the mores of the people of Niger. Between 80 to more than 98% of the population is Muslim

So dimmuborgir was quite correct.

Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by JoachimSchipper »

gaius wrote: post #38
JoachimSchipper wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment should arguably cite something , and the mention of "Muslim" suggests a less-than-neutral look at the data. Looking at both http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_de... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_de... , India is not near the top. The top isn't characterized by being muslim, either. [EDIT: was "Neither are "muslim" states, though - with the exception o…

"Muslim" and "African" are not mutually exclusive! Top of that list is Niger and Wikipaedia says: Islam, spread from North Africa beginning in the 10th century, has greatly shaped the mores of the people of Niger. Between 80 to more than 98% of the population is Muslim So dimmuborgir was quite correct.

Further down the (fertility) list: Guinea-Bissau: 35% muslim; Afganistan >99% muslim; Burundi 10%; Liberia 12%; Dem. Rep. of Congo 5%; East Timor 1%; Mali 90%; Sierra Leone 77%; Uganda 12%. If you want to group these countries, "African" (plus Afghanistan) seems to work pretty well. "Muslim", much less so.

That said, yes, contrasting "muslim" and African is nonsense; I edited my post to fix that.

Re: India to block .XXX top-level domain

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Post by sp332 »

tybris wrote: post #8

I'd be surprised if there were actually going to be porn sites on xxx, since it can be blocked so easily. Probably it's going to more about underground culture.

Most porn sites aren't worried about selling to people who don't want porn. Basically, if a person decides to ban .xxx, they probably wouldn't be customers anyways.
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